Intro/Outro: “Spacelab,” by Kraftwerk
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Interviewees:
Greg Lemke, PhD, Distinguished Professor Emeritus, Salk Institute
Ryan Rosen, Friendly Futures
John Galante, President, AE Ventures
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Discussed:
People
Louis Kahn — architect of the Salk Institute
Greg Lemke — distinguished professor emeritus, Salk Institute
Tony Hunter — Salk professor; discovered tyrosine phosphorylation
Jonas Salk — founder of the Salk Institute
Eero Saarinen — architect of Bell Labs Holmdel and IBM Yorktown
William Pereira — architect of Geisel Library and master planner of UC Irvine
Walter Netsch — SOM architect of Northwestern's University Library
Dawn Clark Netsch — Illinois legislator and comptroller; Walter Netsch's wife
Frank Gehry — architect; designed Facebook/Meta's MPK20 campus
Mark Zuckerberg — co-founder and CEO, Meta
Theodor Geisel (Dr. Seuss) — namesake of UC San Diego's Geisel Library
Cormac McCarthy — novelist, author of The Road; longtime Santa Fe Institute fellow
Bruno Latour — sociologist of science; co-author of Laboratory Life
Steve Woolgar — co-author with Latour of Laboratory Life
Christian Catalini — MIT economist; research on lab proximity and collaboration
Eric Klinenberg — NYU sociologist; author of Palaces for the People
Jan Gehl — Danish urbanist
William H. Whyte — urbanist behind the Street Life Project
Ryan K. Rosen — founder and creative director, Friendly Futures
Aaron Hurst — founder and CEO, U.S. Chamber of Connection
John Galante — president and founder, AE Ventures
Bryan Boyer — University of Michigan; co-author of Chain Drain ("Brian" in the transcript)
Kelly Alvarez Doran — co-founder, Ha/f Climate Design; formerly MASS Design Group
Buildings, Campuses & Places
Salk Institute for Biological Studies — La Jolla, CA
Salk Institute architecture — history and design of the Kahn campus
UC San Diego — University of California, San Diego
Geisel Library — UC San Diego
UC Irvine — William Pereira's radial campus plan
Torrey Pines Mesa — San Diego's research and biotech corridor
La Jolla — San Diego community
Bell Works (former Bell Labs Holmdel) — Saarinen's Holmdel research campus, now adaptively reused
IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center — Yorktown Heights, NY
Santa Fe Institute — complexity research institute
Northwestern University Library — Walter Netsch's brutalist library
Jussieu Campus — Sorbonne University, Paris
Meta MPK20 — Frank Gehry-designed Menlo Park office
The RaDD (Research and Development District) — IQHQ's downtown San Diego waterfront life-science campus
Gaylord Pacific Resort — Chula Vista, CA
Wild Mile — floating eco-park on the Chicago River
La Jolla Tennis Club — public tennis club, La Jolla
Companies, Organizations & Events
Friendly Futures — Ryan Rosen's social-architecture and neighborhood-games practice
AE Ventures — John Galante's hosted-event company
Builder Innovator — AE Ventures' content platform and summit series
Urban Rivers — Chicago nonprofit behind the Wild Mile
U.S. Chamber of Connection — Aaron Hurst's civic-connection nonprofit
IQHQ — life-science real estate developer
Alexandria Real Estate Equities — life-science REIT and lab campus developer
Scripps Research — La Jolla biomedical research institute
Scripps Institution of Oceanography — UC San Diego
MASS Design Group — nonprofit architecture practice
Ha/f Climate Design — Kelly Alvarez Doran's embodied-carbon consultancy
Zonda — housing market research firm
Future Place — Zonda/BUILDER master-planned community conference
PCBC — Pacific Coast Builders Conference
California Building Industry Association — CBIA
Downtown Denver Partnership — downtown Denver business improvement organization
Mortgage Bankers Association — MBA
White House Council of Economic Advisers — CEA
Bilt Rewards — rent-payment rewards platform
WeWork — flexible workspace operator
Los Angeles Dodgers — MLB franchise
Los Angeles Rams — NFL franchise
Insulating Concrete Forms (ICF) — Insulating Concrete Forms Manufacturers Association
Otter.ai — transcription service used for this recording
Publications, Papers & Works Cited
Laboratory Life: The Construction of Scientific Facts — Bruno Latour and Steve Woolgar (Princeton University Press)
Chain Drain: Why the Built Environment Struggles to Learn and How to Fix It — Bryan Boyer and Greg Lindsay, University of Michigan white paper
Palaces for the People — Eric Klinenberg on social infrastructure
The Social Life of Small Urban Spaces — William H. Whyte, Project for Public Spaces
The Purpose Economy — Aaron Hurst
Aerotropolis: The Way We'll Live Next — John D. Kasarda and Greg Lindsay
Road to Housing Act of 2025 — U.S. Senate Banking Committee housing legislation
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes — 1972 film shot partly at UC Irvine