In this podcast episode, Kyle and Kerry share their personal stories of introspection, authenticity, and personal growth. They discuss their journey in the fire service and how they had to overcome destructive behaviors that are prevalent in the industry. Kyle opens up about the hardships he faced, including his wife's miscarriages, and how he coped by putting more on his plate. He emphasizes the importance of empathy and compassion in the fire service, and how understanding one another's stories can lead to a healthier and more supportive environment for all firefighters. Kerry also shares her story of finding purpose in the fire service and realizing the value of empathy in leadership. Together, they advocate for a shift in the fire service culture, where human values like empathy and compassion are prioritized, leading to better mental health and overall well-being of firefighters.