October 31, 2025

Unpacking Christian Nationalism ft. Dr. Robert P. Jones | The Joy Reid Show

1 hour 8 minutes

In this special bonus episode of The Joy Reid Show, Joy sits down with

Dr. Robert P. Jones to unpack the rise of White Christian Nationalism

and its dangerous impact on America. They discuss Project 2025, the

growing influence of white evangelicals, and how nationalism is

reshaping U.S. politics. Dr. Jones dives deep into the history of

Christian nationalism, its role in fueling extremism, and the challenges

it poses to American democracy. He opens up about the unsettling

alliance between religion and politics, the racial tensions escalating

in the nation, and what’s at stake for America’s future.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome to the Joy Reid Show

00:55 Russell Vought Hidden Camera Interview

03:00 Joel Webb Christian Statements on ICE & Immigrants

04:26 Welcome, Dr. Robert P Jones!

07:39 The Bubble Demographic Education Growing Up

11:40 The Moment Curiosity Opens the Bubble

14:03 The Public Religion Institute

18:34 Barack Obama's Impact on White Christians

25:27 The Whiteness Conception of Dr. Robert

29:06 The Racism Anxiety in White Christianity

33:58 The Hate Epidemic Data

38:27 The "Chosen Ones" Embracing the Losing Side

42:02 Donald Trump's Administration Logic

46:52 White Narrative on the History as a Torture Argument

50:22 The Desire of Ethnic Cleansing in the USA

56:25 The Radicalization of Young White Christians

1:00:26 How to Do a Wake-Up Call on the Opposite Side

1:04:32 Bonus Question

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2020 to 2025. Her previous anchoring credits include The Reid Report

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