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This week’s show is about informed consent, pregnancy, drug testing, hospitals, and the family policing system. Specifically, we break down a form of surveillance called “test-and-report” that's being used to punish parents and newborns in medical settings. And we hear from a coalition that's been organizing against it.

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Chenjerai interviews Dr. Erinma Ukoha and Desseray Wright about their work with the Informed Consent Coalition and their fight against the family policing policy of "test-and-report".

Desseray Wright is a Parent and Policy advocate at the Bronx Defenders, where she works to challenge and transform the family regulation system. Dr. Ukoha is a board-certified obstetrician, gynecologist, and maternal fetal medicine specialist at the Mount Sinai Hospital. This interview was recorded just before Mother’s Day. 

We also give you a sneak preview of the new season of Scene on Radio, which premieres on May 27th. 

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Informed Consent New York

https://www.informedconsentny.com/

Bronx Defenders 

https://www.instagram.com/bronxdefenders/

Movement for Family Power 

 https://www.movementforfamilypower.org/

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This week, we hear the story of how the "punishment bureaucracy" uses narrative and media to maintain state violence. We’re looking at the devastating impact of jailing someone simply because they cannot afford to pay bail. We dive into how punishment systems defend themselves and the stories that police, prosecutors, politicians, and media institutions tell in order to make cages sound like safety.

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First, Chenjerai talks with Alec Karakatsanis, founder of Civil Rights Corps and author of the book Copaganda: How Police and Media Manipulate Our News. Alec tells the story of the fight against wealth-based detention—from the devastating reality of the cash bail system to the ways "copaganda" is used to attack reform victories and justify the jailing of people because they are poor.

Later, Chenjerai is out for a ride in New York City when his bike breaks down, leading to an encounter that sticks with him. He meets a bike mechanic who is clearly living without much of a safety net, but who carries an incredible archive of skill, a set of tools and a deep willingness to help others. It’s a reflection on the genius that lives all around us, and the uncomfortable reality of the city’s inequality.

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Further reading & sources from this episode

• Alec Karakatsanis’s book: Copaganda: How Police and Media Manipulate Our News
• Civil Rights Corps: Learn more about their litigation and advocacy work
• The Puerto Rico Report: The Transformation of the Puerto Rico Police Bureau
• The Body Camera: The Language of our Dreams by Alec Karakatsanis
• The California Supreme Court Ruling: The Marshall Project
• Debt Collective: Carceral Debt

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Before he was a scholar, journalist, and podcast host, Chenjerai was a rapper. And this week’s show is all about how hip-hop is connected to our larger political struggles. 

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First, Chenjerai interviews his friend, the scholar, rapper, and UVA professor A.D. Carson. He's the author of Being Dope: Hip Hop and Theory through Mixtape Memoir. In their conversation, they talk about what it means to take rap seriously on its own terms and why it's worthy of scholarly analysis, and how A.D’s work applies to the Afroman case. 

Second, Chenjerai talks with RodStarz, ½ of  the political rap duo Rebel Diaz. They discuss the group's history, their political education, the Rebel Diaz Arts Collective, and how they understood hip hop not just as music, but as actual infrastructure. 

Also, P-Dawg calls in, News Fiend, & more… 

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Buy A.D’s book:  Being Dope: Hip Hop and Theory through Mixtape Memoir https://academic.oup.com/book/61518?login=false

A.D. Carson’s hot off the presses article on the use of James Broadnax lyris to sentence him to death. https://theconversation.com/after-the-execution-of-james-g-broadnax-in-texas-questions-persist-over-use-of-rap-lyrics-as-evidence-280901

Some of A.D. Carson’s other writing 

https://aydeethegreat.com/printed-words/

Rebel Diaz “Chicago Teacher”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yN7cRZP58k

Rebel Diaz on a legacy of activism through music

http://bronxink.org/2011/10/12/17578-rebel-diaz-passing-on-a-legacy-of-activism-through-music/

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Here at Unruly Subjects you know we’re celebrating May Day ✊🏻✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

So this week, we’re featuring two interviews that help us think through this critical question: What does it take to build the kind of power that can actually meet this political moment?

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First, Chenjerai interviews three major labor leaders: Todd Wolfson, president of the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) and a national vice president of American Federation of Teachers (AFT); Jessica Tang, president of AFT Massachusetts and former president of the Boston Teachers Union; and Carl Rosen, who recently retired as general president of the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America (UE). Todd, Jessica, and Carl talk about May Day as more than symbolism. They talk about it as part of building the infrastructure we may need later: labor, civil society, public institutions, community organizations, immigrant rights groups, education workers, and ordinary people finding ways to move together before a crisis hits.

Second, Our Unruly homie - the scholar and poet Demetrius Noble - talks with Carla Harris, a public school teacher and organizer in Guilford County, North Carolina. They discuss the everyday realities of working in public education and also about organizing in practical terms: how you talk to a coworker who is tired, scared, skeptical, or has never been asked to act before.

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Further reading & sources from this episode:

AAUP/AFT Platform: A Blueprint for Strengthening and Transforming Higher Education
https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/2026/Higher_Ed_Vision_and_Policy_Platform_326.pdf

May Day Strong
https://maydaystrong.org/

Kids Over Corporations
https://kidsovercorporations.org/index.html

https://www.ednc.org/4-23-2026-state-house-dems-call-for-budget-with-raises-for-educators-and-other-updates-from-the-start-of-short-session/#:~:text=Ben%20Humphries/EdNC-,Senator%20to%20file%20a%20

Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools Cancelling Classes
https://www.instagram.com/p/DXhiOqzEWQ9/?igsh=ZDJ4MWR5YWo5OGx2

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This week, we look back at the martial law crisis that happened in South Korea in 2024, the Union-led opposition that organized swiftly, and the nationwide general strike that helped played a key role in defeating martial law and spurring mass mobilization.

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Chenjerai interviews Mikyung Ryu, the International Director of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions (KCTU) about what happened on December 3rd, 2024, how labor reacted, what broader forces made the response possible, and what lessons people in the United States might learn from South Korea's fight to stop an authoritarian turn.

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Wikipedia Primer on the 2024 South Korean martial law crisis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_South_Korean_martial_law_crisis

Korean Confederation of Trade Unions

https://nodong.org/english/

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It’s Black Maternal Health Week! So on this week’s show we’re taking a deep look at the conditions Black mothers face before and after giving birth. 

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We feature an esteemed guest to discuss the mental health dimensions of maternal health: Saadiqa Kumanyika, a psychotherapist who specializes in perinatal and postpartum maternal mental health. (Saadiqa is also the First Lady of Unruly Subjects). 

We also share an interview with Malajah Rigsby, a new mother, and her doula Shantice Edwards. They give us an intimate view into what support and care looked like for them through their birthing journey. 

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Saadiqa Kumanyika Therapy

https://www.saadiqakumanyikatherapy.com/

Should I Have a Baby? 10 Questions to Ask Before You Get Pregnant

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/should-i-have-a-baby-10-questions-to-answer-before-you-get-pregnant-jennifer-jessica/1113650744

Black Women Birthing Justice 

https://www.blackwomenbirthingjustice.com/

Black Mama’s Justice Alliance 

https://blackmamasmatter.org/

Support SisterWeb - the community of Birth Workers and Educators that Shantice works with!

https://www.sisterweb.org/

Resources from Black Women’s Health Imperative 

https://maternalhealth.bwhi.org/

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This week on Unruly Subjects, Chenjerai finally gets into sports. Kind of. Recently, it came to his attention that Steph Curry - one of the greatest NBA players of all time - has been investing in Israeli technology that’s linked to military actions that country is taking in Palestine,Gaza, Iran, Lebanon, and beyond. What’s up with that? Chenjerai unpacks this situation with Dave Zirin, Sports Editor at The Nation Magazine, and Demetrius Noble, Professor of African American Diaspora Studies at UNC Greensboro. They discuss the “sports-washing” being choreographed by nations and companies perpetuating war and genocides, the real world impacts of these investments, and how seemingly good guys like Steph Curry get tied up in the mess. 

Also, we bring back singer-songwriter CoCo Watson and D Noble to dissect a ridiculous video that’s recently been going viral. 

And new music from Coco! https://soundcloud.com/hellocollette/unsubscribe2026

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Why is Steph Curry Investing in Israeli Security Tech?, The Nation 

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/steph-curry-investments-israel-tech-sector/

Here is a video on Sports Washing From Dave Zirin - https://www.pbs.org/wnet/amanpour-and-company/video/sportswashing-countries-use-sports-to-distract-from-crimes/

Video of the Singing Server

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DTYeWTekj4S/

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This week on Unruly Subjects, Chenjerai is joined by his close friend Professor D Noble to unpack the viral fallout surrounding white rapper Jack Harlow. Following Harlow’s move into Neo Soul with his new album Monica, Chenjerai and Professor Noble dive into the controversy sparked by Harlow’s recent interview on the New York Times’ Popcast, where he claimed he has "gotten Blacker."

Go beyond the individual critiques of Harlow and go deeper to analyze how the "post-Not Like Us" landscape has changed the rules for artists, and who actually controls the means of Black cultural production. In other words who really controls access to the "Cookout?” And, of course, it wouldn't be Unruly Subjects without some levity—Chenjerai and D Noble spend some time riffing on the hilarious and biting nicknames that have popped up as the internet trolls Harlow, including Jan 6 Mafia, A Clan Called Quest, and Musiq Rothschild.

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This episode is all about the fight against data centers. Specifically, we’re sharing the story of how the residents of Monterey Park, California waged a successful campaign against the construction of a data center in their town. Chenjerai interviews Hrag Balian and Steven Kung, co-founders of No Data Centers in Monterey Park and Claire Wang, an independent journalist who has been covering the anti-data center movement for The Guardian and other outlets. 

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Further reading & sources from this episode:

Rage against the machine: a California community rallied against a datacenter – and won, The Guardian 

After a White Town Rejected a Data Center, Developers Targeted a Black Area, Capital B News

Trump releases AI policy for Congress to pre-empt state rules, Reuters

Trump’s AI Order Is More Bark than Bite

While the executive order has created uncertainty for the many states that have passed artificial intelligence policies to protect their residents, its impact falls short of its menacing rhetoric.

Data Center Watch  

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This week, Chenjerai drives down to Philly to break bread with his friend - community activist and advocate April Lee. They visit Black Dragon, an innovative takeout spot in West Philly featuring Black Chinese cuisine from the mind of Chef Kurt Evans. Over noodles and spring rolls, April gives her analysis of the family policing system and talks about survival, structural violence, parenting, and about what real community care actually requires. 

Also, Chenjerai calls up his friend Professor D Noble to find out what’s going on with the white rapper Jack Harlow and his comments about “getting Blacker” for his new album. 

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Further reading & sources from this episode

Learn more about April Lee’s organization Philly Voice for Change

https://phillyvoiceforchange.org/

Inside Black Dragon, the New Black American Chinese Takeout in West Philly

https://philly.eater.com/2024/8/29/24231141/black-dragon-new-american-chinese-food-takeout-west-philly

Support NYU ‘s Contract Faculty

https://nyucontractfacultyunion.org/

Center for Family Representation 

https://cfrny.org/

See Clips from Family Advocacy Day on C4FR’s Instagram page 

 https://www.instagram.com/p/DVOrs-EEcf_/

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