Unruly: The Podcast

Former IRS Commissioner Danny Werfel and Lauren discuss the difference between good policy and good politics. From his early days at OMB to his time at the IRS, Danny has been a policy wonk before anything else, and he speaks candidly OR openly about his approach to good government and what his biggest concerns are about the current approach at the IRS and beyond. 

Does optimism and positivity work, or are you just being a Pollyanna?  Join Lauren and Amy Martinez-Monfort, the CEO of Tampa Laundry Company, as they talk about how Amy’s positive attitude has fueled her growth throughout her career. 

Is traditional work no longer working for you? (Does it actually work for anyone anymore?!). Danielle Roberts, the Anti-Career Coach, joins Lauren to talk about how to reimagine work in a way that works better for everyone. Her Unruly approach to finding meaning and purpose will be of interest to employees challenged in their current roles, but also managers, owners, and others who want to create workplaces that are effective for both their employees and their bottom lines.

Join Lauren and Dr. Stuart Shapiro, Dean of the Bloustein School of Public Policy at Rutgers, as they talk about how to conceive of what is normal and what is legal within Executive Branch actions. Dr. Shapiro is one of the foremost experts on government regulations and rules, and is the author of the book Not Normal (among others).

Join Lauren and Karen Lee, a public servant who has reinvented herself at least a half dozen times, but always with an eye towards service over self. We talk about just starting, regardless of if you have the perfect solution or not. Join us as we talk about how to get Unruly when you're not always sure of your next steps.

Join Lauren and her guest, Randy Hansen, the Division Director for the American Bar Association’s Rule of Law Initiative.  Randy talks about what the Rule of Law is and why it matters.

What does it mean to be Unruly?  In this episode, Lauren explains the concepts behind Unruly—knowing the rules, challenging the rules, and eventually changing the rules that don’t work so you can always do the right thing and always follow the rules without always following the pack.