In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott return to their roots with an unscripted conversation that moves through themes of trauma, nervous system regulation, and the evolving nature of boundaries. They begin with a reflection on the Netflix film Night Always Comes, touching on housing insecurity, personal privilege, and the complexity of the language we use to describe lived experiences.

The conversation opens into a wider exploration of somatic therapy, mindfulness, and the ongoing work of self-regulation. Jenn shares insights from her clinical practice, including how she tailors her approach to each client’s needs, while Scott reflects on the importance of boundaries in high-stress work environments, drawing from his background in law enforcement.

Together, they consider the practices that keep them grounded—meditation, movement, time in nature—and the ways they’ve each learned to hold space for others without losing themselves in the process. What emerges is an honest and thoughtful dialogue about aging, capacity, and staying connected to what matters most.

You can access the Waking Up Meditation App: https://www.wakingup.com/

My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Reesma Menakem: https://a.co/d/iXWM1Cd

Night Always Comes | Official Trailer | Netflix: https://youtu.be/Gd44vTsTUhs?si=WE50LoDPKzujIoql

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On this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, we sit down with Clare Gallant for a brave and deeply personal conversation that leans into the messiness of parenting, identity, and letting go—proof that curiosity paired with courage can open doors to healing we didn’t know we needed.

Clare shares her powerful story of adopting a child with reactive attachment disorder and the unspoken toll it took on her family, her sense of self, and her nervous system. With honesty and heart, she reflects on the grief of making the impossible decision to let go—and the long journey of self-forgiveness and healing that followed. We talk about parenting through trauma, the complex emotions of retirement, and the unexpected sense of purpose Clare discovered in her new job at Costco.

The conversation opens up questions about legacy, aging, and how we find meaning when the roles we’ve lived in begin to shift. We explore what it means to be “adventure ready” at any age, the surprising comfort of physical work, and why creativity and curiosity remain essential companions in later chapters of life.

This one is rich with hard-won insight, laughter, and gentle reminders that personal transformation often begins with telling the truth—first to ourselves, and then to others.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott are joined by Cecily Milne, founder of Yoga Detour, for a wide-ranging and beautifully human conversation about growth, movement, motherhood, and redefining ambition.

Cecily shares how discomfort has been a catalyst for both personal and professional evolution—from launching Yoga Detour after her own injuries, to navigating a major life move from Toronto to Squamish, BC. She opens up about postpartum anxiety, the hidden challenges of parenting, and the surprising shifts in identity that come with living in a slower-paced, mountain-town culture.

Together, the trio explores the messiness of “enoughness,” the unlearning required to embrace interdependence, and how authenticity—not perfection—is the most magnetic force in both business and relationships. Cecily also speaks candidly about balancing online teaching with real-life connection, and how movement remains a powerful tool for her mental health.

Expect honest reflections, a few laughs, and a reminder that growth doesn’t always look graceful—but it’s worth it.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott settle into a conversation that makes space—for pause, for presence, for not having it all figured out. They touch on the discomfort of asking for help, and the subtle ways we override our nervous systems in the name of getting things done.

They share personal reflections on people-pleasing, growing up fast, and learning (still) how to receive. Jenn opens up about her early tendencies to fill space in therapy sessions — and the transformative impact of learning to wait, be quiet, and trust the process. Scott shares insights from his time as a crisis negotiator and police officer, and how those experiences shaped his comfort with silence and presence under pressure.

This one’s for anyone who:

• Struggles to slow down, ask for help, or sit in silence without squirming
• Feels the pull to perform, please, or be productive — even when nobody’s asking
• Wants to better understand the link between nervous system health and emotional capacity
• Is curious (or frustrated) about journaling and other creative practices that just won’t stick
• Has ever wondered what it really means to be with someone, rather than fix or guide them

Also covered: phones in bedrooms, wine after 40, the challenge of teaching online, and why prompts might be the key to unlocking Scott’s secret dream of writing.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Scott and Jenn sit down with Scott’s brother, Dan Jones—a former beat cop, current Chair of Justice Studies at NorQuest College, and someone who brings heart, grit, and wisdom to conversations about justice, trauma, and healing.

Dan shares the path that took him from being labeled and underestimated as a kid to earning a Master’s degree from Cambridge University, and building a career rooted in compassion, not just correction. He opens up about the emotional toll of policing, the importance of boundaries, and how he’s learning to stay regulated in a world that often isn’t. From his deep respect for Indigenous healing practices to the everyday rituals—like barefoot walks and feeding magpies—that help him feel human, Dan invites us into a conversation about vulnerability, resilience, and finding fulfillment in unexpected places.

This episode is full of laughter, honesty, and reflections on brotherhood, burnout, and why men’s mental health deserves more space. It’s a conversation about doing the work—and staying curious while you do.

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Learn more about NorQuest College: https://www.norquest.ca/

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, we sit down with Caroline Cheng, a mental health educator with the RCMP, whose journey has taken her from science labs to forensics to the front lines of mental wellness in law enforcement. Caroline shares stories of growing up in an immigrant family shaped by academic pressure and high achievement, how she’s learning to quiet her inner critic, and why she believes curiosity and community are central to healing.

We talk about the shift from independence to interdependence, how perfectionism and cultural values can shape our mental health narratives, and the power of crying, cold plunges, and aerial circus arts as regulation tools. Caroline also reflects on integrating wellness into first responder culture, what she’s still unlearning, and the big, open-ended questions guiding her life right now.

Expect laughter, real talk, and an inspiring reminder that growth is rarely linear—and always better when shared.

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In this heartfelt episode of Unscripted Curiosity, it’s Jenn’s turn in the hot seat as she opens up about her 4 decade journey through therapy, healing, and reconnection with herself. With Scott asking thoughtful, grounding questions (and bringing a few good laughs), Jenn shares the layered path that’s led her from rhythmic gymnastics and disordered eating to becoming a trauma-informed therapist with a deep respect for body-based healing.

She reflects on how traditional talk therapy often left her feeling more overwhelmed than supported, and how discovering somatic practices, trauma-informed yoga and movement, and Indigenous healing helped her finally start to come home to herself. From early sports psychology to land-based ceremony, Jenn shares candid moments of struggle, insight, and self-compassion—reminding us that healing is rarely linear, and always personal.

Scott also brings his usual warmth and curiosity, opening the conversation with stories from a recent retreat and time spent caddying for his son. The episode closes with a grounded reflection on the ongoing nature of resilience, the value of vulnerability, and how small daily choices can help us meet ourselves with more grace.

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In this honest and deeply personal episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Scott takes the hot seat as he opens up about his journey through therapy, trauma recovery, and emotional regulation. Co-host Jenn holds space as Scott reflects on his early resistance to therapy during his time as a police officer and how that mindset slowly shifted through experience, curiosity, and necessity.

Scott shares candidly about the impact of cumulative trauma, the role of EMDR in processing what he calls his “trauma trunk,” and how practices like breathwork, yoga, and cold exposure became anchors in his healing. He touches on the profound influence of Indigenous healing practices, including his powerful experiences participating in sweat lodges—spaces that helped him connect more deeply with himself and something greater than himself. Scott also talks about the emotional toll of first responder work, the transition into civilian life, and the importance of seeking support before burnout hits.

Throughout the conversation, Jenn brings her perspective as a therapist, asking thoughtful questions and drawing out the nuances of Scott’s experience. Together, they unpack the challenges of regulation, the messiness of healing, and what it means to show up more fully in life and relationships.

This episode is a raw, real, and compassionate look into one man’s journey toward well-being—and a reminder that growth often begins in the uncomfortable places.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, Jenn and Scott open up about their very different approaches to planning and presence—Jenn’s love of preparation (thanks to her past in event planning and engineering) contrasts with Scott’s go-with-the-flow mindset shaped by years as a crisis negotiator. A missed appointment sparks a deeper reflection on anxiety, catastrophic thinking, and the inner voices we all wrestle with.

The conversation flows through topics like negativity bias, the tug-of-war between discipline and self-compassion in exercise, and the essential role of active listening—whether in therapy or crisis situations. Jenn shares candidly about becoming a therapist in her late forties, while Scott reflects on his own transition out of law enforcement and into wellness work for first responders.

Throughout, they explore what it means to stay grounded, stay human, and stay curious—even when life doesn’t go as planned. Plus, a peek at future guests and their hopes for what’s next on the podcast.

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In this episode of Unscripted Curiosity, co-hosts Scott and Jenn invite a very special first guest—Scott’s wife, Terri! The conversation kicks off with some playful banter about Ontario’s recent weather drama (spoiler: it wasn’t as wild as predicted). From there, they dive into the heart of the episode: Terri’s powerful story of career reinvention.

Terri opens up about her career path as an occupational therapist and the balancing act of work and family life. But when chronic health issues hit in her early forties, everything changed. Forced to step away from her career, Terri began to explore new ways of healing—leading her to yoga teacher training and an unexpected shift in her life.

As she shares her experiences, Terri reflects on the pressures Gen X women faced to “have it all” and how her journey into wellness, from yoga to pain science and polyvagal theory, has transformed her approach to self-care. She talks about finding balance, letting go of rigid expectations, and the importance of listening to her body—practices she now embodies every day.

The episode wraps up with a fun and heartwarming chat about what’s next for Terri and Scott’s yoga company, Twisted Oak Yoga. From sound healing events to a sold-out retreat, they’re creating meaningful spaces for others to find wellness, too. Plus, hear about their exciting future plans, including a Tuscany yoga retreat and more!

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