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  • Francie Jain- Unlock Employee Potential: How Group Coaching May Help Transform Workplace Culture & Slash Turnover

    Is your organization struggling with the revolving door of talent? In today's competitive market, retaining top performers requires more than competitive salaries—it demands a workplace where people feel valued, connected, and inspired to grow.

    Join Abbey Crane for an illuminating conversation with Francie Jain, founder of Terawatt, who reveals how her innovative approach to group coaching is revolutionizing how companies invest in their most valuable asset: their people.

    Francie shares why her marketplace model is making professional development accessible beyond the C-suite: "We really push group coaching because it's much more affordable. If you're a CEO or CFO, you may get one-on-one coaching as part of your benefits package. Whereas if you're a practicing contributor, you're definitely not getting one-on-one coaching."

    What You'll Discover:
    • The Real Cost of Burnout: Learn why employee disengagement isn't an individual failing but a symptom of system-wide dysfunction

    • Success Story: How a group of doctors transformed their workplace dynamics through targeted communication coaching

    • The "17 Touches" Principle: Why meaningful employee recognition might require more consistent effort than you think

    • Generational Insights: Discover why accommodating Gen Z's workplace expectations creates a better environment for everyone

      "If you feel like you could just be as miserable, $10,000 more a year is a worthwhile reason to leave," explains Jain. "But if you felt like this was the most perfect job you've ever had, you wouldn't feel like an extra $10,000 would be worth it."

      Ready to transform your organization's approach to professional development and dramatically improve retention? This episode provides actionable insights every leader needs to hear.

      Visit terawatt.co to learn more about bringing affordable group coaching to your organization.

       

      Other resources mentioned: 

      • Lisa Gibson- Shine the Spotlight on you 
      • Arianna Huffington- The Sleep Revolution
      • 54 min
      • Angela Frank: The Power of ONE - A Counter-Intuitive Marketing Approach That Drives Results

        Angela Frank is a fractional marketing director who has run budgets up to a million dollars a month. Her advice to everyone smaller than that is to stop being everywhere. Pick one channel, master it, and only then add a second.

        Key takeaways
        • Do more by doing less. Spreading a small team across five platforms produces presence on none of them.
        • Pick the channel your customer already uses. Not the one you enjoy and not the one that is fashionable.
        • A fractional marketing lead beats a junior hire. Seniority a few days a month, rather than inexperience full time.
        • The ecosystem needs a through-line. Every asset should be recognisably part of the same argument.
        • Define the ideal customer before the channel. Otherwise the channel choice is a guess with a budget attached.
        • Reddit came back. One of the more surprising channels in her current mix.
        • On this page
          • The power of one
          • Choosing the one
          • Fractional versus a first hire
          • The through-line
          • Ideal customer first
          • Where the tools fit
          • People, ideas and sources mentioned
          • Questions this episode answers
          • Go deeper
          • The power of one

            The counter-intuitive part is not the advice, it is who is giving it. Someone who has managed a million a month in spend is telling small businesses to do less, because she has seen what a large budget actually buys and it is not available to them.

            Five channels at ten per cent effort each produces five weak signals. One channel at full effort produces something a customer notices.

            Choosing the one

            The selection rule is where the customer already is, not where the owner is comfortable. Those are frequently different, and the gap is expensive.

            Her method is to establish the ideal customer profile properly, then find where those people already gather, then commit. That sequence makes the channel decision an observation rather than a preference.

            Fractional versus a first hire

            The typical alternative for a growing business is a junior marketing hire, which buys availability and no judgement. A fractional director inverts that: judgement a few days a month, and no capacity.

            Which is the right trade when the problem is deciding what to do. It is the wrong trade when the strategy is settled and the problem is execution.

            The through-line

            Her marketing ecosystem framing is about coherence. Every asset should be visibly part of one argument, so that a customer who encounters three of them recognises the third.

            Without that, a business with five channels does not have five times the presence. It has five separate small brands competing for the same attention.

            Ideal customer first

            Everything above depends on the customer definition being real rather than aspirational. A vague profile produces a vague channel choice, vague messaging and a campaign nobody can evaluate.

            The test she applies is whether you can name the specific places those people already spend time. If you cannot, the profile is not finished.

            Where the tools fit

            She is a pragmatist about AI. It is for enhancing what a marketer already knows how to do rather than replacing the deciding, and the tools in her stack are ordinary ones.

            The genuine surprise in her current mix is Reddit, which has become an effective channel again for businesses willing to participate rather than advertise.

            People, ideas and sources mentioned
            EntityWhat it is
            The Growth DirectiveAngela’s consultancy
            Marketing ecosystem strategyHer framing for coherence across every asset
            The power of oneMaster a single channel before adding a second
            Fractional marketing leadershipSenior judgement a few days a month instead of a junior hire
            RedditThe channel she names as a genuine surprise in the current mix
            Questions this episode answers
            • Should a small business be on every marketing channel?
            • How do I pick which channel to focus on?
            • Is a fractional CMO better than hiring a junior marketer?
            • What is a marketing ecosystem?
            • How do I define my ideal customer profile?
            • Where does ChatGPT fit in a small marketing team?
            • Is Reddit worth using for marketing?
            • Go deeper

              Every link above goes somewhere different. These are the ones not already mentioned above.

              • The Growth Pod, Angela’s own podcast.
              • Your Marketing Ecosystem, her book.
              • Jared Harman on simplifying the message until your own network can repeat it, which is the same argument from the agency side.
              • Find Angela Frank

                She is on LinkedIn, where she posts about fractional marketing leadership.

                Cite this episode

                Frank, Angela. Interviewed by Jeremy Rivera. “The Power of ONE.” Unscripted Small Business, 2025. https://unscripted-small-business.castos.com/episodes/angela-frank-the-power-of-one-a-counter-intuitive-marketing-approach-that-drives-results

                40 min
              • Myles Johnson: Youth Entrepreneurship & Representing Ingram County Michigan
                In this episode of the Unscripted Small Business Podcast, our new host, digital marketing consultant Zaneta Chunique Inpower speaks with Miles Johnson, an elected official in Ingham County, about his role in the Lansing community. They discuss various topics including community development projects, food deserts, youth empowerment, and economic initiatives. Miles shares his passion for advocating for the youth and the importance of local politics, encouraging listeners to get involved in their communities. He also offers advice for aspiring political leaders and emphasizes the significance of representation in public service.
                takeaways
                • Miles Johnson is an elected official in Ingham County.
                • He represents South Lansing and is involved in community development.
                • There are new projects in South Lansing, including a bank and health system.
                • Food deserts are a significant issue in South Lansing.
                • Youth empowerment is a top priority for Miles Johnson.
                • Economic development is crucial for the community's growth.
                • Community members can get involved by attending local meetings.
                • Local politics are essential for making a difference.
                • Representation in politics is vital for diverse perspectives.
                • Starting small can lead to significant changes in the community.
                • 20 min
                • Tyler Mumford: Escaping corporate life to... grind stumps?
                  In this conversation, Jeremy Rivera interviews Tyler Mumford, the owner of Grind Time Stump Grinding, about his unique journey from a corporate sales job to running a niche stump grinding business. Tyler shares insights on transitioning from B2B to B2C, building an online presence, navigating regulations, and the importance of branding.
                   
                  He discusses his growth plans, seasonal strategies, and the value of collaborations and referrals in the service industry. Tyler also offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs looking to enter niche markets.
                   
                  takeaways
                  • Stump grinding is a loud and dirty process, but it's PG.
                  • Tyler transitioned from a corporate sales job to entrepreneurship.
                  • Initially, Tyler focused solely on B2B for his stump grinding business.
                  • Cold texting tree companies was the starting point for Tyler's business.
                  • Tyler aims to grow his business but is uncertain about the future.
                  • There are minimal regulations for stump grinding businesses.
                  • The name 'Grind Time' was chosen for its simplicity and appeal.
                  • Tyler operated without a website for the first few months.
                  • If you're trying to grow a brand, it doesn't matter if you're saving commercial kitchens on cost, or laying down concrete, you have to remember the value of testimonials from satisfied clients.
                  • Winter is used to up level the business and plan for the future. Asphalt contractors should account for varied weather too.
                  • Building referral relationships is crucial for business growth, for example he often sends business to land clearing, tree trimming and landscape partners.
                  • 35 min
                  • Brandon Barnum: Why Referrals Matter and How to Read Anyone's Personality in 90 Seconds

                    In this engaging conversation, Abbey Crane interviews Brandon Barnum, known as the 'King of Referrals.' Brandon shares his inspiring journey from struggling financially to becoming a successful figure in the mortgage industry, emphasizing the importance of referrals in business. He discusses mindset shifts, strategies for building referral partnerships, and effective networking techniques, especially for introverts. The conversation also touches on the role of community in business, the balance between automation and personal touch in follow-ups, and the future of AI in relationship building. Brandon concludes with valuable insights on asking for referrals and the importance of trying new things to succeed.

                     

                    Takeaways:
                    • Brandon Barnum's journey from $20K to $200K in income.
                    • The significance of referrals in B2B sales.
                    • Building reciprocal referral partnerships is crucial.
                    • Networking events should be approached strategically.
                    • Understanding personalities can enhance networking effectiveness.
                    • Community engagement is vital in a digital landscape.
                    • Follow-up is key to maintaining relationships.
                    • Automation should complement personal outreach.
                    • AI is transforming relationship building in business.
                    • Asking for referrals is essential for growth.
                    •  

                      Resources Mentioned: 

                      Buy Brandon's book, Raving Referrals here! 

                      Why They Buy 

                      The One Minute Millionaire

                      The Gap and the Gain

                      ravingreferrals.com

                      hoa.com

                      43 min
                    • Melinda Martin: Exploding Your Knowledge Of The Book Publishing Industry

                      Summary

                      In this engaging conversation, Jeremy Rivera and Melinda Martin explore the multifaceted world of publishing, discussing the importance of trust, the role of personal stories and tragedies in storytelling, and the differences between self-publishing and traditional publishing.

                      Melinda shares her insights on the investment required for quality publishing, the impact of AI on the industry, and the evolving landscape of book marketing in a digital age. The discussion emphasizes the balance between technology and authenticity, highlighting the human experience in the creative process.

                       

                      Key Takeaways

                       

                      • The publishing industry spans from simple self-publishing to establishing professional publishing businesses, with varying levels of investment and quality
                        • Professional printing offers substantial advantages over print-on-demand, including specialized features (spot UV, debossing, linen covers, foil elements) that aren't available through platforms like Amazon
                          • Authors can create multiple revenue streams beyond traditional bookstore sales, including school visits, direct sales, and digital products
                            • Self-publishing has evolved to rival traditional publishing quality as authors gain access to professional printers and industry knowledge
                              • Traditional publishing requires finding an agent who then pitches to publishing houses, often resulting in a two-year (or longer) process with no guarantee of publication
                                • There's growing tension between AI-generated content and human creativity, with many creatives opposing AI use in book creation
                                •  

                                  Killer Quotes

                                  "So many people in the publishing business, the publishing industry, they started a publishing business because they see it as a cash cow. They play on people's emotions and it is such a predatory industry. And I did not start this business. I really didn't even set out to start a business. The business just kind of found me." — Melinda Martin

                                  "I am a good fit for someone, then we work hard at being a great team and publishing a quality book for their audience." — Melinda Martin

                                  "Self-publishing has evolved so that it can now rival what you see in the traditional publishing realm. And that's because we now have access to these printers. We now have the internet where we can tap into the knowledge base of how traditional publishing works. And we can replicate that in our own business." — Melinda Martin

                                  "Publishing for profit is a long game if you're doing the professional printing way of doing things." — Melinda Martin

                                  "We need more than just the creative speaking out against the use of AI because the authors and the publishers are the ones that are making these long-term decisions to embrace AI or to embrace humanity." — Melinda Martin

                                  "Picture books were a world for me to dive into... The majority of the authors I'm working with now, they are just wanting to make that same impact that picture books had on them." — Melinda Martin

                                  Relevant Resources Discussed & Mentioned:
                                  • Melinda Martin on Instagram
                                  • https://www.nashvilletnlaw.com/the-last-electric-chair-execution/
                                  • The Odd Dog
                                  • Jeremy Rivera's self published SEO book
                                    • Jeremy's Asphalt contractor client, and Save Fry Oil project
                                    •  Unscripted SEO Podcast, Non-Profit/Green Podcast, Women Who Work From Home
                                    • 43 min
                                    • Jeff Revilla: Building a Risk-Free Podcast Theater for the Creator Economy

                                      In this conversation, Jeff Revilla shares his journey from skateboarding entrepreneur to digital marketing expert and podcast studio owner. He discusses the evolution of podcasting, the challenges he faced in building his studio, and his vision for creating a unique live podcasting experience. Jeff emphasizes the importance of community, creativity, and fostering a supportive environment for podcasters. He also shares insights on the future of his studio and the philosophy behind his business model, which aims to remove risks for content creators while promoting collaboration and growth.

                                      Inspiring Quotes From the Conversation:

                                      "Podcasting is the creator, producer, and complete control of your content and destiny. There's no more DIY than podcasting."

                                      "The ability to feel safe and to laugh is what really sparks creativity. If you're tense, you'll hold back."

                                      "This theater is becoming the pivot point, the Lynch pin that's building this community of live podcasting."

                                      "As a fan, you get to see the podcast up on stage, meet the host, shake their hands and say thank you. That's an experience you don't get just by clicking subscribe."

                                      "You have to be excellent to each other. If you live your life serving others, being excellent, being a great host, and providing what people need, imagine what the world could be."

                                      Key Takeaways:

                                      Podcasting has evolved dramatically since its early days in 2006-2007.

                                      Five generations are simultaneously experiencing digital transformation.

                                      Live podcasting creates deeper connections between creators and audiences.

                                      The "infinite seat theater" concept removes capacity limitations.

                                      Removing financial risk for creators encourages experimentation.

                                      Community-building through meetups accelerates business growth.

                                      Revenue-sharing models align venue and creator interests.

                                      Creating safe spaces fosters creativity and innovation.

                                      Digital marketing skills are transferable across industries.

                                      Authenticity and playfulness strengthen audience relationships.

                                       

                                      Listen to Jeff's podcast here! 

                                      For booking information on Poduty Live, click here! 

                                      Other showcase mentioned: Rise and Outshine 

                                      49 min
                                    • Shahar Boyayan- 18 Touches to Make a Sale: The AI Secret Most Entrepreneurs Don't Know Yet

                                      In this conversation, Shahar Boyayan discusses the intersection of consumer behavior and AI, exploring how AI is transforming consumer interactions and business operations. She emphasizes the importance of understanding consumer behavior in the context of AI advancements, the pros and cons of AI in daily life, and the ethical implications of its use. Shahar also shares insights on how small businesses can integrate AI, the significance of market research, and the need for authenticity in marketing. She concludes with advice for entrepreneurs on overcoming fear and embracing change to succeed in a rapidly evolving landscape.

                                      Key Takeaways:

                                      AI adoption is happening whether businesses are aware or not, requiring trusted internet service providers

                                      Automation can free entrepreneurs to focus on growth.

                                      Five generations are simultaneously experiencing AI transformation.

                                      Authenticity matters more as technology advances.

                                      Balance is crucial between AI efficiency and human connection.

                                      Critical thinking prevents over-reliance on AI.

                                      Small businesses should start automation with 10+ customers.

                                      Systematizing operations enables business scaling.

                                      Creative outlets help maintain mental health amid technology.

                                      Transparency builds stronger customer relationships.

                                       

                                      Interested in how PropTalkie could help your business? Click here to learn more! 

                                      Other project mentioned: Unleash your creativity with online art classes at curiousmondo.com

                                       

                                      57 min
                                    • Anna Rósa Parker: How to Lead with Heart and Transform Your Life

                                      In this engaging conversation, Anna Rósa Parker shares her journey from Iceland to New York, exploring her transformation from a theater actor to a lifestyle mentor and executive coach. She emphasizes the importance of storytelling in both personal and professional realms, highlighting how intuition and authenticity play crucial roles in personal development and branding. Anna discusses the challenges of navigating stuckness, the significance of curiosity, and the impact of AI on storytelling. She also shares insights on building a personal brand, the importance of empathy, and her upcoming app that merges technology with coaching.

                                      Chapters

                                      00:00 Introduction to Anna Rósa Parker
                                      03:57 From Theater to Coaching: A Journey of Self-Discovery
                                      07:08 The Art of Storytelling in Coaching
                                      10:00 Intuition and Creativity: Tapping into Inner Wisdom
                                      12:48 Creating Your Own Life: Understanding Worthiness
                                      16:06 Navigating Stuckness: Simplifying Life and Work
                                      19:02 The Role of the Body in Authentic Living
                                      21:45 Curiosity as a Driving Force
                                      24:36 Reinventing Routines for Entrepreneurs
                                      29:44 Building Confidence and Authenticity in Branding
                                      31:10 The Role of Storytelling in Brand Development
                                      33:11 Leading with Heart: Authenticity in Teams
                                      34:39 Values and Integrity in Business
                                      36:34 The Impact of Technology on Branding and Storytelling
                                      40:55 Creating an App: Merging Ideas and Technology
                                      43:15 Empathy and Community Engagement in Entrepreneurship
                                      46:22 Understanding Roots: Compassion and Empathy
                                      49:04 Curiosity and Creativity in Daily Life
                                      50:58 Knowing Your Story to Shape Your Future 

                                      Interested in learning more about the E.V.O.K.E Method or working with Anna? Click here! 

                                      53 min
                                    • Vega Montañez: The Challenges of Marketing Cinema in the Streaming Ag
                                      In this conversation, Jeremy Rivera speaks with filmmaker Vega Montañez about his journey from music to filmmaking, the impact of streaming platforms on the industry, and the challenges of marketing films in the digital age.
                                       
                                      They discuss the importance of the theater experience, the need for in-person engagement, and the evolution of internet discovery. In this conversation, Vega Montañez and Jeremy Rivera explore the complexities of independence, the impact of nostalgia on storytelling, the challenges of introducing new intellectual properties in the film industry, and the evolving landscape of streaming versus theatrical releases.
                                       
                                      They also discuss the flawed metrics used to evaluate films and the importance of representing life experiences beyond traditional narratives, particularly for young adults. Vega shares insights into his current projects, emphasizing the need for diverse storytelling.
                                      takeaways
                                      • Vega Montañez transitioned from a music career to filmmaking.
                                      • His first film was self-produced with the help of friends.
                                      • Streaming platforms have changed the landscape for indie filmmakers.
                                      • The theater experience offers a unique engagement that streaming cannot replicate.
                                      • In-person marketing events can create stronger connections with audiences.
                                      • Digital marketing often lacks effective options for film promotion.
                                      • The distractions of home viewing can diminish the movie experience.
                                      • HBO could capitalize on its cinematic TV shows by screening them in theaters.
                                      • The internet has shifted from exploration to algorithm-driven content consumption.
                                      • Memorable experiences are crucial for audience retention. Independence is often an illusion shaped by external factors.
                                      • Nostalgia influences our consumption of media, often at the expense of innovation.
                                      • New stories struggle to emerge in a market dominated by sequels and franchises.
                                      • The film industry needs to take more risks on new intellectual properties.
                                      • Streaming success does not guarantee theatrical opportunities for filmmakers.
                                      • The perception of movie quality is skewed by unrealistic rating expectations.
                                      • There is a need to normalize lower ratings for films that are still enjoyable.
                                      • Creative chaos can be beneficial for emerging filmmakers.
                                      • Life experiences in the mid-20s are underrepresented in media.
                                      • Diverse storytelling is crucial for understanding different life perspectives.
                                      • 41 min

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