Unseen Leadership

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Aaron Ivey who is pastor of worship at Austin Stone in Austin, Texas. He is also a songwriter and author.

During their conversation, they discuss how feedback helps you grow, practical steps to setting vision, and wasting time with God and people.

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"We want our people to crave feedback, not avoid it.""All of us want to be great at what we are doing, nobody is just OK with being mediocre.""The culture and ethos of what a team is all starts with vision.""My biggest mistake early on was not realizing that setting the vision is on the leader." "Ministry and leadership can be so fast-paced that we forget to waste time with God.""If you can build a community around 'we don't need you, but we really want you' it fosters a sense of wanting to be involved.""Creatives do a good job at the creative part, but I also want them to want to get better in terms of leadership."Surround yourself with people that are going to push you forward and that have a spirit of optimism.""God doesn't need me to accomplish any of this stuff, but He wants me, so I am going to be alone and still and quiet with Him.""You don't have to have it all together to be a great leader, but surround yourself with people to help you grow."

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Unseen Leadership Episode 2: Jamie Ivey on Dealing with Your Past and Sharing Your Struggles With Others

Wasting Time With God by Klauss Issler

Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund

Downline Ministries' mission is to encourage a restoration of biblical discipleship in and through the local church by equipping men and women to know God's Word and make disciples. 

The primary way we partner with churches is through the Downline Institute, a 9 month biblical discipleship training program that walks students through the Bible (Genesis-Revelation), biblical manhood/womanhood, and key discipleship lessons. Listeners can receive $100 off tuition cost by using the code LIFEWAY when you apply at www.downlineministries.com.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Miguel Nunez who is a pastor, medical doctor, and speaker. He is also the author of several books including his latest, Servants for His Glory.

During their conversation, they discuss learning from past life experiences, how serving in a church impacts our lives, and how humility affects a person.

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"I can relate to people in a more compassionate way from what I learned from them.""I firmly believe that your wife has to be the first person to confirm your call to ministry.""Being the head of the house does not mean that your wife has to blindly follow whatever you are thinking. The Lord gave her to you so she can help you make decisions and bring a different perspective.""Don't think of your secular work as secular, it is sacred.""You should be looking for the opportunity to serve, that is how you identify your gifts and talents.""It was a mistake for me to assume that if you did everything right that everything would go well and no one would go against you.""I realized that a lot of the unrest within us is the consequence of not being gentle and lowly.""A humble person can be taught by people over him or under him. A humble person can be a team member. A humble person is sensitive to the voice of God."

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Servants for His Glory by Miguel Nunez

Spiritual Leadership by Henry Blackaby and Richard Blackaby

From and Before God by Sugel Michelen

Lead by Paul Tripp

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Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund

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Downline Ministries' mission is to encourage a restoration of biblical discipleship in and through the local church by equipping men and women to know God's Word and make disciples. 

The primary way we partner with churches is through the Downline Institute, a 9 month biblical discipleship training program that walks students through the Bible (Genesis-Revelation), biblical manhood/womanhood, and key discipleship lessons. Listeners can receive $100 off tuition cost by using the code LIFEWAY when you apply at www.downlineministries.com.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy is joined by Dr. Jason Allen the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas City, MO. He is also the author of many books including Succeeding at Seminary, Being a Christian, and Discerning Your Call to Ministry.

During their conversation, they discuss understanding your unique gifting and calling, redeeming ambition, and contextual leadership.

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"There is more than one way to be a faithful, fruitful, effective pastor, leader, dad, coach, seminary president.""There is more than one way to faithfully lead.""How a man handles his own ambition is one of the most important aspects of his life.""If I were to hire a person and they struck me as fundamentally unambitious, that would be a problem. But if a person is just foaming at the mouth, that would signal the alarm at the other extreme.""You can be weakening your institution by chasing unhealthy goals.""We have to remember that leadership is always contextual.""If you find yourself brushing shoulders with leaders, ask them questions about what they are learning about leadership."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Succeeding at Seminary by Jason Allen

Being a Christian by Jason Allen

Discerning Your Call to Ministry by Jason Allen

Rescuing Ambition by Dave Harvey

The Effective Executive by Peter Drucker

The Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast

The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl Truman

Churchill & Son by Josh Ireland

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.

So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ 

Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Horst Schulze the former president and co-founder of the Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company and founder of the Capella Hotel Group. He is also the author of Excellence Wins.

During their conversation, they discuss defining ourselves with excellence, making employees feel like a part of the organization, and being sincere in our leadership.

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"Excellence is never an accident. It's always the result of high intent and hard work.""Excellence is doing our very best in the functions that we fulfill in our work.""It's not the product, it's more the relationship: how you are treated, how you were respected.""You have to give people a place where they feel a part.""Leadership creates an environment in which the employees want to do it and feel a part of it.""That is a serious issue with managers: moving from problem to solution instead of moving from problem to analysis to test to solution, and using the people connected with the process to do that.""The urgent thing has to be done, you can't let the fire burn around you, but after you are finished, how do you make sure the fire never happens again?""I cannot love my neighbor as myself, but I can try.""If I can identify their talent and help them to be successful in a way they can apply the talent, that's how I want to select employees.""From today on, know that in a new role as a leader you have the honor of impacting the life of people positively."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Excellence Wins by Horst Schulze

7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey

HorstSchulze.com

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.

So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ 

Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Tyler Reagin founder and CEO of The Life-Giving Co., former president of Catalyst, and author of The Life-Giving Leader and his latest, Leading Things You Didn't Start.

During their conversation, they discuss calling out uniqueness in leaders, moving from self-awareness to self-management, and honoring the past as a new leader.

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"We spend our days chasing other people's uniqueness.""If we don't believe that how He uniquely made us matches what He called us to do, that is a bad theology.""Do not spend your days trying to become someone you're not. Become confident in that uniqueness God has for you.""My credibility is what gets me in the room. It's my EQ that keeps me in the room.""You have to move from self-awareness to self-management.""The more successful in ministry you become, the more isolated you become.""If you come in there and you do not honor what they've been through, what they've been working on, where they've come from, you will lose influence from the moment go.""Honor the things you want to celebrate so that they understand what you value.""Every day I want to find somebody I can celebrate and somebody I can bring life to.""Become proud of how God uniquely made you and it will blow your mind how He is going to call you to stuff when you trust that calling."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Life-Giving Co.

Catalyst

The Life-Giving Leader by Tyler Reagin

Leading Things You Didn't Start by Tyler Reagin

Emotional Intelligence 2.0 by Travis Bradberry and Jean Greaves

10Ten Project

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.

So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ 

Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Jon Tyson who serves as Lead Pastor at Church of the City in New York and author of several books, including his latest, Beautiful Resistance.

During their conversation, they discuss devotion to prayer, cultivating love, and balancing the tension of compassion and conviction.

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"I think a lot of leaders are doing the best they can in increasingly complex situations, and none of us have the training for the drama we are dealing with.""I was looking at the outcome of people in history who's fruit I wanted to see God do again, and then I looked at their lifestyle and wanted to imitate that.""I have sought to faithfully steward that very rare culture of revival that brought me to Christ.""So often we rarely address the invisible evil, and we rely again on human technique and human systems to solve satanic problems.""If you try and get the reward in public, you will have no power in the secret place.""You pray because you love God, you want to be with Him, you want to know Him.""I have three prayer movements every day - one of intimacy, one of interaction, one of intercession.""Jesus has to be our leadership model.""If you get all compassion and no conviction, you don't have Christianity. If you get all conviction and no compassion, you don't have Christianity. It's both of those things together.""No generation has personally witnessed this level of sin and brokenness firsthand.""Build your leadership on prayer.""Favor is when you reap what you didn't sow, and if God trusts you, you will have His favor and there is no substitute for the favor of God on your leadership."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Beautiful Resistance by Jon Tyson

A Resilient Life by Gordon McDonald

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.

So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ 

Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Michael Hyatt who is the former chairman and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers and author of many books including Win at Work and Succeed at Life.

During their conversation, they discuss self leadership, how vision drives results, and adding constraints around your work to achieve more.

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"I was on the verge of losing my family and compromising what were my most important priorities all on the altar of my ambition.""If you can't lead yourself, you don't really have the right or the capacity to lead anybody else.""If you are leading people, you are taking them somewhere, and if you don't know where you are taking them, you aren't really qualified to be a leader.""Once you have vision, then you can create alignment.""Clarity of vision drives an acceleration of results.""One of the things that is critically important for success is likability.""Once you've hit about 55 hours per week, you've maxed out your productivity. And worse than that you blow out some other really important things in your life like your health and your most important relationships.""Life is more than work and you will actually achieve more by doing less if you put some constraints around your work and force yourself not to work all the time.""Our thinking really does shape the outcomes in our lives."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Win at Work and Succeed at Life by Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller

The Vision-Driven Leader by Michael Hyatt

Living Forward by Michael Hyatt and Daniel Harkavy

You Are the Placebo by Dr. Joe Dispenza

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.

So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ 

Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Jonathan Pokluda who is the lead pastor of Harris Creek Baptist Church in Waco, Texas and author of Outdated.

During their conversation, they discuss long obedience, how selfish ambition is not fulfilling, and how healthy leadership requires service.

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"We underestimate what we can do with long obedience in the same direction and we way overestimate what we can do in a short period of time.""We must learn as leaders delayed gratification and faithfulness.""Every moment is training for a future moment.""So much of faithfulness starts with doing the things that nobody wants to do.""If I am preaching or writing books or doing podcasts for any reason other than the renown and fame of Jesus Christ, it is not going to satisfy me.""There is always selfish ambition sitting right beside kingdom ambition.""I'm constantly tempted to think that leadership is all about authority.""Anytime we see leadership in the Scriptures it is really defined as service.""The biggest enemy to our quiet time is our iPhone.""I think one day we will be face-to-face with Jesus and we will see our greatest moments of productivity were deep contemplative prayers.""Your greatest way to be self-aware is to understand the thoughts you are feeding."

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Outdated by Jonathan Pokluda

Bible App by Olive Tree

Love Does by Bob Goff

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No matter how many people you have on staff at your church, there’s only so much you can accomplish in a day, right? Your church exists to serve your community, so the mission of your church and its staff is to reach as many people as you can.So BELAY, the innovative staffing solution with over 10 years of experience serving churches with virtual assistants, bookkeepers and social media strategists, is offering a free download of their resource, ‘Church Leaders: Essential Strategies to Unleash Productivity.’ Let BELAY help your church live its mission in your community by helping you juggle less and accomplish more. Visit belaysolutions.com/lifeway for your free download.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Mike Kelsey are joined by Rich Villodas who is the author of The Deeply Formed Life and lead pastor at New Life Fellowship in New York City.

During their conversation, they discuss the integration between soul and role, the balance of reading and experience, and our ability to grow in self-differentiation.

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"Leadership must be this integration between soul and role.""Don't aspire to a role that your soul is not ready for.""Just filling the position because it needs to be filled can lead to a lot of heartache.""I must recognize certain conversations require particular spaces in order to shepherd people well.""Find yourself among people for enough time and you will come across lots of things to help you in your experience - conflicts, disagreements, criticism.""I am trying to become aware of the way these misconceptions shape the way I see myself and shape the way I lead others.""Self-differentiation at its core is about remaining close to myself and remaining close to others, especially in times of high anxiety, and resisting the polar opposite pull of either cutting people off or finding ourselves enmeshed in them.""How do I lead people that disagree with me? By first tending to what is happening inside of me.""We need to hold these things together if we are going to be faithful in the particular generational social and cultural moment we find ourselves in.""We have often been discipled into superficiality."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Deeply Formed Life by Rich Villodas

Generation to Generation by Edwin Friedman

A Failure of Nerve by Edwin Friedman

The Pastor as a Minor Poet by Craig Barnes

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Mike Kelsey who is the lead pastor of preaching and culture at McLean Bible Church in the Washington, D.C., area.

During their conversation, they discuss the process of growing as a young leader, finding the balance of an internal and external call, and evaluating and examining social media in our lives.

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"God began to show me, 'You have a passion for communication and you have a passion for truth and that is for a reason.'""Your character, the inner life, has to be stronger than your external responsibilities or reputation or else you will get crushed.""I love seeing leaders who are young and don't know what they are doing and giving them a sandbox to play in because God wants to do big things through them.""God I know you have me here for a reason and there is a responsibility and a stewardship that comes with that influence.""You may have gifting, and you don't always have to wait for somebody else to validate that, but that is one of God's designs for the local church.""There is a benefit in being rooted in a local church where other brothers and sisters in Christ, pastors, and elders are able to say they see that in you.""I love team leadership. I love having some folks that fill in my gaps and I can help fill in their gaps and we sharpen each other.""I didn't make a lot of big leadership mistakes in my early days, but honestly I think that was my biggest mistake.""You are where you are for a reason, and, under authority, take some risks for good reason, to make the glory of God known.""You don't realize how much your feed is actually controlling the feed in your mind.""It's not always wise to just be an open book."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer

The Libby App

Deep Work by Cal Newport