Unseen Leadership

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Alexandra Hoover who is a wife, mother, Bible teacher, and writer. She has the privilege of serving on staff at Transformation Church as the Assistant Director of Equipping. She’s passionate about communicating the love of Jesus, whether it be through writing or speaking.

During their conversation, they discuss how to lead up to older leaders, how to lead those who have hurt you, and how to root our identity in Christ, not our role.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 46:

“Often as leaders, especially young leaders in our culture, we think success is microwavable.”

“Our identity has to be so rooted in Christ and who he is so that changes and transitions and challenges don’t throw us but grow us.”

“We should be working from a place of love not for a place of love.”

“We need to constantly be asking ourselves, “Am I being pushed by fear or pulled by love?”

“When I think about leadership, I think about humility.”

“We must practice humility even with those who are wrong and even with those who hurt you.”

“The biggest flex in the kingdom of God is when you are able to love those who have hurt you.”

“Remember that your identity is not defined by your role.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Next Right Thing by Emily P. Freeman

How to Lead When You are Not in Charge by Clay Scroggins

When to Walk Away: Finding Freedom from Toxic People by Gary Thomas

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ben Mandrell who is the former Senior Pastor of Inglewood Baptist Church and the founding planter of Storyline Fellowship in Arvada, CO. He is now the President and CEO of Lifeway Christian Resources.

During their conversation, they discuss the link between teaching and leadership, productivity tips to stay organized as a leader, and Ben’s transition from church planting to Lifeway.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 45:

“A mark of a great leader is that we are always learning and growing and nobody has it all together.”

“Words create worlds.”

“The words you choose to communicate create culture more than anything else.”

“As we become more churchy, we become less interesting to the unchurched.”

“Child-like faith is something that we never graduate from.”

“Your head is for having ideas, not for holding them.”

“The more clear and the more strong and more bold you are in a general direction, the more haters you will have.”

“Don’t be overconfident in what you can accomplish in a year, and don’t be under confident in what you can accomplish in five years.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Great Leader, Great Teacher by Gary J. Bredfeldt

Getting Things Done by David Allen

When by Daniel Pink

Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Brad Barnett who is the Senior Manager of Events for Lifeway Students. He helps lead and oversee over 125,000 students and kids that come to camp every summer.

During their conversation, they discuss how to understand yourself as a leader, how to explore your calling, and how to lead as an introvert.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 44:

“Leadership intentionality with others trumps any kind of leadership knowledge.”

“We can’t lead everyone the same. We have to lead people differently along the way.”

“God is more concerned about the work that he is doing in us than the work he is doing through us.”

“Leadership is hard. There is a heaviness and a burden you are signing up to carry on behalf of those you lead.”

“God places unique things in our lives that lead to opportunities that wouldn’t be there otherwise.”

“Giving feedback is caring. Withholding feedback is uncaring.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller

How to Lead When You are Not in Charge by Clay Scroggins

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter look back on the first year of the Unseen Leadership podcast and reflect on what they have learned while interviewing 40+ leaders.

During their conversation, they answer the following questions:

What are 2-3 of the most impactful quotes that we have heard on the podcast?

After 40+ interviews, what are 2-3 words or ideas that have stuck out the most to you?

What has been your personal favorite moment on this podcast?

What were 2-3 of the most interesting stories you have heard on the podcast?

What was the most impactful book you have read that was discussed on the podcast?

If you could grab coffee with 1 guest that we have had on, who would it be and why?

Who is your bucket list guest? Meaning if we could get one guest on here, who would it be?

Which question is your favorite that we ask?

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In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dean Inserra who is the founding and lead pastor of City Church in Tallahassee, FL, and the author of The Unsaved Christian.

During their conversation, they discuss the journey of church planting, how to grow in self-awareness, and how to determine if you should go to seminary.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 42:

“We are all replaceable and don't need to have a chip on our shoulder.”

“I think you need to get seminary out of your system as quickly as possible.”

“I had to learn there’s different ways to lead different types of people.”

“I think self awareness is everything. On our staff, we call it feel.”

“I think everything goes back to how you view God.”

“My biggest misconception was that I would have instant credibility with those older than me.”

“There’s going to be a lot of guys who are chasing a lot of stuff. Let it come to you instead of going out and looking for it.”

“Focus on those who are in front of you, not just what is next.”

“Take God really seriously and not yourself.”

"I would encourage those in leadership to not read more leadership books than doctrine and theology books."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Unsaved Christian by Dean Inserra

Without a Doubt by Dean Inserra

The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul

Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Pete Scazzero who was a pastor for 26 years before co-founding Emotionally Healthy Discipleship. Many of us know Pete from reading one of his bestselling books, including The Emotionally Healthy Leader and Emotionally Healthy Spirituality. 

During their conversation, they discuss how to become emotionally mature, how to redefine success, and how to create a rule of life.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 41:

“Discipling people is hard work. It is very slow work.”

“You can’t be spiritually mature unless you are emotionally mature.”

“Who you are is way more important than what you do.”

“Discipleship is being re-formed by Jesus.”

“I think this COVID-19 season is a great opportunity to get retooled by God for the next phase of what he has for you.”

“Success is becoming the person God has called you to become and doing what God called you to do. Period.”

“I don’t believe it is possible to mature spiritually without some dimension of silence and solitude in your life.”

“Maturity isn’t just about talking to God. It is also about listening to God.”

“God’s building people, not just organizations.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Emotionally Healthy Leader by Pete Scazzero

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete Scazzero

In the Name of Jesus by Henri Nouwen

Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer

New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton

The Accidental President by A. J. Baime

http://emotionallyhealthy.org/team

http://emotionallyhealthy.org/mature

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Todd Adkins who is the Director of Lifeway Leadership.

During their conversation, they discuss how to understand a new work culture, being a learner, and investing in others.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 40:

“I think as leaders we need to be ready for people to not know our name.”

“A big part of leadership is recognizing that your fruit often grows on other peoples trees.”

“Every person in an organization should be a part of a cycle of both learning and teaching.”

“As a leader, being a learner should be your #1 goal.”

“In this day and age, if you are a leader and not a learner, you’ve got a pretty short shelf life.”

“My biggest misconception as a young leader was that leadership placement and leadership development were the same thing.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Leadership Engine by Noel Tichy

A Beautiful Constraint by Adam Morgan and Mark Barden

Developing Your Leadership Pipeline by Todd Adkins

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Gene Getz who has served as a professor at Moody Bible Institute and Dallas Theological Seminary. He launched the Fellowship Bible Church movement in 1972. And he is the author of 60 books including The Measure of a Man and the Life Essentials Study Bible.

During their conversation, they discuss the need for mentors, not viewing yourself as a professional, and how to be a lifelong learner.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 39:

“I spent the first 20 years teaching people how to pastor and lead a church, and I’ve spent my last 40 years learning how to do it.”

“I always want to thank God that someone comes to listen to me preach.”

“I don’t want to just become a professional. I want to be a pastor and a shepherd.”

“By the time I was 50, I realized how much more I needed to learn.”

“I’m 88 years old, and it still scares me what I don’t know. We must always be a learner. Because there is more to know than we can ever learn in a lifetime.”

“Your greatest strength is to trust people. Your greatest weakness is to trust people you shouldn’t trust.”

“People are honored when they are asked for wisdom.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

5LQ Episode 422: Gene Getz

Life Essentials Study Bible

The Measure of a Man by Gene Getz

Discipline by Grace by Jerry Bridges

Team Sight (Style of Influence Personality Test)

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Eugene Cho who is the founder and former Senior Pastor of Quest Church. He is now the President-Elect of Bread for the World. He is also an author of several books including his latest Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk.

During their conversation, they discuss the marathon of leadership, the pitfalls of building a platform for the wrong reasons, and Eugene’s journey as an entrepreneur.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 37:

“One of the ways that you realize you are a leader isn’t just that you are leading, but that you have others following you as well.”

“Leadership is not for the faint of heart.”

“I believe leadership is not about perfection. It is about maturity, and one of the best ways I can define maturity is awareness.”

“Are we more in love with the idea of changing the world than actually changing the world? ”

“When we are talking about changing the world, it is not one, single viral moment. It is about living a trajectory of faithful obedience.”

“Personal growth is always greater than platform growth.”

“If you are not working on character when no one is looking, when you build an audience and people look at you, they will see no depth and substance.”

“We need to be healthy spiritual beings in order to be healthy spiritual leaders.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Emotionally Healthy Leader by Pete Scazzero

Overrated by Eugene Cho

Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk by Eugene Cho

A Long Obedience in the Same Direction by Eugene Peterson

Christ Plays in 10,000 Places by Eugene Peterson

Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson

The Contemplative Pastor by Eugene Peterson

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In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Derwin Gray who is a former NFL football player and the founding and lead pastor of Transformation Church in South Carolina. He is also an author of many books, including his latest The Good Life.

During their conversation, they discuss how to learn from failure, how to focus on discipleship more than leadership, and how to find true happiness in Christ.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 37:

“Typically where leaders fail is that we delegate tasks instead of delegating responsibility.”

“The best teacher is failure.”

“I thought pastoring was just getting up and preaching, but it is not. That is about 5% of what I do.”

“If you don’t deal with conflict on the front end and it gets toxic, on the back end it’ll be even more expensive and many more people will be hurt.”

“Leaders must step into conflict to bring about resolution, to bring about restoration, and to bring about reconciliation.”

“The greater we understand the cross and Jesus making peace, the greater that we can be peacemakers.”

“In the New Testament, the word leadership is used 3 times and the word disciple is used 269 times. Why don’t we talk about discipleship more?”

“Leadership and discipleship are two sides of the same coin. However, you can be a leader without a disciple, but every disciple is called to be a leader.”

“Oftentimes we are ambitious for power and status instead of being ambitious for Jesus.”

“Happiness is not about what you are getting. Happiness about who you are becoming.”“Wouldn’t it be sad to live a life of effective ministry and be broken hearted at the end of it.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

The Good Life by Derwin Gray

The Evangelism Linebacker

Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck

On Pastoring by H.B. Charles Jr.

Conformed to His Image by Ken Boa

Paul by N.T. Wright

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.