Unseen Leadership

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy is joined by Steve Green who is the President of Hobby Lobby, founder of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, and author of many books including his latest This Beautiful Book which just recently released.

During their conversation, they discuss how to build a strong organization, how to lead relationally, and how to see your business as a ministry.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 36:

“You lose teaching opportunities when you just do the job yourself.”

“No one learns more than the teacher.”

“My job is making sure I have good people and that I’m building a strong organization.”

“As a leader, you don’t always have to be the expert in the room.”

“My nature is more of the doer and I can miss out on relational moments.”

“It really became clear to me that not only was I doing ministry at church but the business was a direct ministry.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Museum of the Bible

This Beautiful Book by Steve Green

Good to Great by Jim Collins

Saving My Assassin by Virginia Prodan

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ken Costa who is a London-based, internationally renowned banker, author and speaker. He has been the chairman of some of the world’s largest investment banks, advisor to some of the most powerful people in the world, and is a committed Christian who believes Jesus is the hope of the world.

During their conversation, they discuss how to view your work, how to understand your calling, and slow down and listen to God.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 35:

“I came to realize God was really interested in what I did throughout the week, not just what I did on Sundays.”

“You can’t govern the timing of God.”

“If you are trying to reach the top and don’t feel called by God to do it, you are going to burn out.”

“The great heritage of Christians is that we know our why.”

“With COVID-19, it is as if God has said to the world, stop. Reboot, rewire, and rethink.”

“You can’t just Google your why and your calling. It is a profound psychological process. We have to cut through the noise.”

“The door that God opens, no one can close. And the doors that God closes, no one can open.”

“For this generation, we live in a spectrum between broadband and burnout. And at the moment, we were on the verge of people veering toward burnout.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

God at Work by Ken Costa

Know Your Why by Ken Costa

Start with Why by Simon Sinek

Atomic Habits by James Clear

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Daniel Im who is the Senior Associate Pastor at Beulah Alliance Church, speaker, and author of a few books including his latest You Are What You Do.

During their conversation, they discuss navigating transitions, discerning God’s call on your life, and staying focused on the little things.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 34:

“We just wanted to get plugged in and be the type of volunteer I would have looked for while on staff at a church.”

“When God is moving you, it is like he is a good gardener.”

“I loved the number 2 role and the systems side of things.”

“We need to be faithful and follow God’s ways by cultivating spiritual practices and being in community.”

“Spiritual growth is a lot like sleeping. You can’t cause yourself to sleep, but you can create the conditions in which it will come.” - Richard Foster

“Don’t assume every opportunity is from God. It could be a distraction.”

“Instead of trying to do great things for God. Let’s just do things for a great God.”

“Be faithful with the little things and the big things will come.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

You Are What You Do by Daniel Im

The Pastor: A Memoir by Eugene Peterson

Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership by Ruth Haley Barton

Soul Keeping by John Ortberg

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by John Eldredge who is a counselor, a teacher, and an author of  Wild at Heart and his latest book called Get Your Life Back. 

During their conversation, they discuss how to handle stress and anxiety, the importance of trust in leadership, and the importance of pausing and slowing down.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 33:

“We can want to change the world. But we should enjoy our life while trying to change the world.”

“Do real things.”

“I don’t check my phone first thing in the morning anymore.”

“The average person spends 93% of life indoors.”

“We are all faking it to some degree to another.”

“We are all broken. What matters is what we do with our brokenness.”

“My mistake as a young leader was too much, too fast.”

“God is going to do some things in your 20’s that don’t look related to your career or success. But it is shaping your character. And you’re going to want that in your 50.”

“God humbles us to exalt us.”

“One of the greatest costs of leadership is loneliness. Invite others into it and share the leadership.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Get Your Life Back by John Eldredge

Wild at Heart by John Eldredge

Captivated by Stasi and John Eldredge

Victory Over the Darkness by Neil T. Anderson

Smarter, Faster, Better by Charles Duhigg

Destiny of the Republic by Candace Millard

River of Doubt by Candace Millard

Deep Work by Cal Newport 

The Shallows by Nicholas Carr

The Horse and His Boy by C.S. Lewis

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For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Jenaye White are joined by Ellie Holcomb who is a Dove award-winning singer/songwriter and author of two children’s books titled Who Sang the First Song, and her brand new kids book Don't Forget to Remember, available now.

During their conversation, they discuss how to lead with authenticity, how the creative process works, and how God’s plans are better than our own.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 32:

“Music is a bridge builder. There is something about music that connects our story to someone else’s story, even if it is very different.”

“I’ve had to learn to be who I am and to own my own story and to own my own pain.”

“God didn’t come to make bad people good people. He came to make dead people alive people.”

“Don’t let fear dictate your decision making and pay attention to what makes your heart beat fast and come alive.”

“When I feel like I’m leading well, it is usually from a place of vulnerability and owning what I’m not good at.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Don't Forget to Remember by Ellie Holcomb

Who Sang the First Song by Ellie Holcomb

The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron

The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown

Rising Strong by Brené Brown

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Joshua Gagnon who is the founding and Lead Pastor of Next Level Church, which is one of the fastest growing churches in America and the author of his new book It’s Not Over.

During their conversation, they discuss how to leading by asking good questions, building culture, and pursuing your dreams in a Godly way.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 31:

“No one wants to listen to a young leader full of pride or thinks they know it all. They want to listen to a young leader who is submitted and full of honor.”

“Older leaders don’t mind young leaders who ask good questions that lead to better results.”

“I wanted to start a church where my friends would want to go.”

“I had to learn to lead like a father rather than a brother.”

“Emotions in the moment compromise the integrity you want to walk with.”

“We have to be prepared to lead the moment, and often times we have not prepared our hearts to lead the moments we are stepping into.”

“Leadership breaks down when we are not prepared to lead in a specific moment.”

“If I’m moving the ball forward in an organization but not developing leaders for forward movement, that is going to create a lot of tension and roadblocks.”

“Wait until the morning to handle conflict and make big decisions.”

“Culture is what matters. Everyone talks about vision. But everybody has a vision. Tell me about the culture that supports the vision, and I’ll tell you if your vision is going to amount to anything.”

“We often expect way too much out of the immediate and not enough over the ultimate.”

“God will be fruitful. Our job is to be faithful at taking each piece in each season so that someday we’ll see our dream fulfilled.”

“The fake me might get me further for the short term, but the real me will take me further over the course of a lifetime. I want to be real and allow people to get scary close.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

It’s Not Over by Joshua Gagnon

Red Zone, Blue Zone by James Osterhaus, Joseph Jurkowski, and Todd Hahn

Tale of Three Kings by Gene Edwards

Scary Close by Donald Miller

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Shannon Miles who is the Co-Founder and Co-Chair of Belay Solutions, a Virtual Assistant Company.

During their conversation, they discuss how to take calculated risks, how to lead others with empathy, and how to lead remote teams.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 30:

“When your desperation exceeds your embarrassment, you will make a change.”

“I had to learn to stop applying my desires and ambitions to those I was trying to lead.”

“Not everyone is like you, and not everybody can be lead the same way.”

“You have to actually understand and know those you are leading.”

“A leader can lose credibility simply in the language that they use.”

“People will rarely remember what you say but they will remember how you make them feel.”

“If we had not taken the risk, we would have had regret.”

“The safest thing for us sometimes is to take risks.”

“I don’t think there has ever been a better time to start a business.”

“Always be looking to replace yourself.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Good to Great by Jim Collins

This is Marketing by Seth Godin

Purple Cow by Seth Godin

Deep Work by Cal Newport

Talking with Strangers by Macolm Gladwell

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For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Andrew Peterson who is an award-winning sing-songwriter, creator of The Rabbit Room, and author of the Wingfeather Saga and his latest book Adorning the Dark.

During their conversation, they discuss how to distinguish between pride and ambition, how to tell the difference between leadership and false influence, and how to lead as a creative.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 29:

“There is no recipe for success. The best advice I can give to young leaders is say yes, keep working on your craft, and be available.”

“Everything that I tried to make happen on my own, ended in a dead end.”

“If your ambition is to leave a legacy, what you’ll leave a legacy of ambition.” - Rich Mullins

“Your motives are never going to be perfectly pure, so don’t let that stop you from doing good work, but listen to the Spirit saying careful.”

“You need to go to church with people who are not impressed with you.”

“Knowing that you are not alone and that your struggles are familiar to other people is so helpful.”

“A good thing can be a bad thing for us if that is not what God has given us to do.”

“If you are honestly reading Scripture, it is almost impossible to get arrogant.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Adorning the Dark by Andrew Peterson

Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott

Walking on Water by Madeleine L'Engle

Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning

Deep Work by Cal Newport

The Lion’s Gate by Steven Pressfield

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Kara Powell who is the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute and a faculty member at Fuller Theological Seminary. She’s also the author of Sticky Faith, Growing Young, and a brand new high school curriculum titled Faith in an Anxious World.

During their conversation, they discuss affirming leadership in others, when to pursue higher education and seminary, and how to handle anxiety and depression in the church.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 28:

“Little by little we travel far” - J.R.R. Tolkien

“If you want to read more, always keep a book with you.”

“I wish I would have talked more freely about God with young people.”

“It is easy to judge my day based upon how much I cross off my to do list. Instead, I’m constantly trying to reorient my compass to say my day is based on how well I loved God and how much I loved others as my self.”

“One of the biggest mistakes we can make when it comes to anxiety and depression is simply not talking about it enough.”

“My concern with personality tests is that it becomes our excuse to not grow.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Faith in an Anxious World curriculum

Measure What Matters by John Doerr

For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Eric Geiger who is the Senior Pastor of Mariners Church in Irvine, California. Before moving to Southern California, Eric served as senior vice-president here at Lifeway. He is the author of many books including Simple Church, Designed to Lead and his latest How to Ruin Your Life.

During their conversation, they discuss how to build credibility with those you lead, how to equip others to do ministry, and how to replace a long term pastor.

QUOTES FROM EPISODE 27:

“As a young leader, you want to honor and respect those who have been there before you.”

“One of the biggest mistakes a young leader can make is to bash the past and try and make themselves look like the hero.”

“The pastor is not supposed to do all the ministry but instead, prepare others to do the ministry.”

“Read or get out of the ministry.” - John Wesley

“Reading helps you formulate your thinking and process information.”

“Young leaders need to always stay curious and stay hungry.”

“One of the biggest misconceptions of young leaders is that people will follow simply because of the role or position you have been placed in.”

“You have to use your leadership role to serve others. Not use your role to be served by others.”

“Find one thing you are passionate about and that your supervisor is passionate about and ask if you can run that initiative.”

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Spiritual Leadership by Oswald Sanders

Leading Change by John Kotter

4 Disciplines of Execution by Chris McChesney, Sean Covey, and Jim Huling

Not the Way It's Supposed to Be by Cornelius Plantinga