Gina and Tim get into FOMO, gatekeeping and power games in the art world, extreme travel, high elevations, sharing bathrooms with strangers, visions of adulthood, kindness, Schopenhauer and the Stoics, cleaning the studio, Project Runway, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Michael Kors, Law Roach, tarot, bingo—and Tim winning big. Somehow, it all makes sense.

Tim goes plein air painting, then casino gambling. Gina tries experiments with "alla prima antipasto" and holds paintings hostage... it's just another summer episode! Tim and Gina discuss asynchronous teaching, Donald Baechler's studio, Carol Rama, older female Artist gravitas, young hot pics of older Artists, making the algo pop, gratuitous artist birthday posts, annoying grants, being obsessed with your own paintings, Carol Bove at the Guggenheim, Nora Griffin and George Griffin at Fierman, the dominance of Agnes Martin, getting paid/not getting paid by galleries and other hijinks, and whether Gina knows what the statute of limitations is on copyright. Keeping it unstretched!

Get in the back of TIm and GIna's sexy van as they discuss all the cars they've ever loved or almost died in, community in the Art world, the art of the humble brag, Insta identity vs. real identity, fighting for adjuncts, bad boyfriends, black bears, re-shuffles at Art mags, sticking up for a friend, art content seeking its lowest level and collectors shifting to gambling gambling.

Tim and Gina discuss whether the Art world has a lack of conviction, 'pretty girls' vs. 'smart girls' or the institution vs the commercial, how Artists need to create their own buzz, whether Lisa Yuskavage is the atomic bomb in the arms race of painting, gas station hamburgers and the classic tome, The Artist's way. Also, God.

Brief Update! Still going strong, come say hi at Marianne Boesky 6/25 6-8 Group Show of gallery Artists works on paper, Paper Trail. Also, NXTHVN, the residency program in New Haven will have a group show of residency Artists in the Boesky space next door!

Tim and Gina discuss David Hockney, Duane Michals and the poet Cavafy. Also, what it's like to be a grinder and how critique in school can be like the Jersey Turnpike. Plus, Art fair display strategies, Creative Capital Grants, the Ark at Powerhouse, Artist signature personal styles, Lisa Yuskavage's symbolism and how Tim has never seen straight porn.

Tim and Gina discuss Acrylic vs. Oil, how anyone’s supposed to sleep, let alone work in the Knick’s New York!! How some people store their work in an air conditioned scam in Livingston, NJ and others a pre-Civil War building, plus more ideas for their future award show. Also, how they handle giving critiques, the penchant for hating the Art World while being a part of it, Jack Whitten and recent heartbreaking Art World deaths.

Tim and Gina discuss Tim’s recent travels in Italy, the criticism panel at ‘The Gallery’, the folly of keeping up with the Billionaires, how and why an Artist might criticize another Artist’s work and whether Unstretched should host an award show where the prize is pieces of canvas tossed at the winner. 

On this totally ad-free episode, Tim and Gina discuss the pornographer of Reston, Virginia, Tim’s upcoming show at Rhizome in Rome, the era of pack and carry shows, residencies, Frieze week in New York, the right way to spend 500k, how an Art Fair is like looking into the abyss, spray and pray, do you have to look like money to make money? Embracing stoic wisdom to sleep at night in the face of Art world inequities and then rejecting it completely when someone copies your work. 

Tim and Gina discuss Venice biennial madness, Met Gala madness, Michael Jackson bio pic madness, all the different ways to feel excluded (some worse than others!) celebrities making Art, going Viral, Artist moms and great Art they've seen recently.