Untethered: Healing the Pain from a Sudden Death

Untethered: Healing the Pain from a Sudden Death

By Dr. Jennifer LevinHealth & FitnessMental Health
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Untethered: Healing the Pain from a Sudden Death episodes

  • 58 - When Traumatic Grief Is an Everyday Reality: An Interview With Big John

    Today's episode explores what happens when traumatic loss isn't an isolated event, but something woven into the everyday reality of a community. Big John Harriel Jr. joins us to talk about repeated exposure to violence and loss, what it takes to process grief rather than go numb to it, and how self-esteem, accountability, and healing are connected. He also shares his own journey - from experiencing and causing harm in his community to dedicating his life to helping young people build healthier lives, find meaningful careers, and become builders of their own communities.

    Key Points:

    Grief in communities marked by repeated loss. When violence and loss show up again and again in a community, the pain doesn't disappear just because people become accustomed to it - repeated exposure can lead to numbness rather than resolution.   Learning to process grief, not just survive it. A central theme of the conversation is the importance of actively learning how to process grief, rather than letting it go unaddressed or normalized.

    Self-esteem, accountability, and healing are connected. Big John speaks to how a person's sense of self-worth and their willingness to take accountability for their actions are tied directly to their capacity to heal.

    From causing harm to building others up. Big John shares his personal journey, including his own experience both experiencing and causing harm in his community, and how that history became the foundation for his current work helping young people find healthier paths, meaningful careers, and a sense of purpose as builders of their communities.

    Healing begins with acknowledgment. A closing theme: healing isn't automatic just because a community has "gotten used to" loss - it starts with acknowledging what happened, doing the work to process it, and walking alongside one another rather than facing it alone.

    To learn more, visit Big John’s website: BigJohnKares.com

    38 min
  • 57 - Companioning Others Through Sudden Loss: An Interview With Caralee Hudson

     In this episode I interviewed Caralee Hudson, a retired ICU and CCU nurse and volunteer grief group facilitator, about supporting individuals after sudden and unexpected loss.

    Key Takeaways: 
    • Sudden loss brings unique challenges, often including trauma, guilt, anger, and unanswered questions that can complicate the grieving process.
    • Healing happens in connection, and grief support groups provide a compassionate space where people feel seen, heard, and understood.
    • You don't have to fix grief to help - simply being present, listening, and bearing witness can be one of the greatest gifts you offer someone who is grieving.
    • 29 min
    • 56 - Rebuilding Your Life After Sudden and Unexpected Loss: An Interview with Yvette Martinez-Rea

      In this episode, I interview Yvette Marintez-Rea, a 52-year-old executive, mother, and widow, who shares what it has been like to rebuild her life after the sudden death of her husband, Andy. Four years into her grief journey, she reflects on loss while raising teenagers, having a full career, and the new financial circumstances she had to learn to navigate.

      Together, we explore anticipatory grief, the practical realities of widowhood, milestones without a spouse, resilience, and the unexpected growth that can emerge after profound loss.

      Key Takeaways:

      • Grief is not a linear process and continues to evolve over time.
      • Practical and financial realities can be as challenging as the emotional impact of loss.
      • Parenting through grief requires balancing one's own healing with supporting children.
      • Milestones and transitions often bring renewed waves of grief.
      • It is possible to experience joy, purpose, and growth alongside grief.
      • Resources: 

        Are You Financially and Legally Prepared for Loss?: Yvette Martinez-Rea

         
        39 min
      • 55 - Disenfranchised Grief: An Interview with Hannah Rumsey on Losing a Friend

        Today’s conversation explores grief that is often overlooked, minimized, or misunderstood - the loss of a close friend. While friendships can be some of the most meaningful relationships in our lives, the grief that follows their loss is not always acknowledged or supported in the ways it deserves.

         

        In this interview, I’m joined by Hannah Rumsey, who shares the story of her friend Lauren and the significant impact her death had on her life. Together, we explore disenfranchised grief; grief that is not fully recognized by society, and how that lack of acknowledgment can deepen feelings of isolation. We also examine how grief evolves over time, how loss can shape identity, and why creating spaces for people to feel seen, heard, and supported is so important.

         

        This episode is a heartfelt conversation about friendship, love, loss, and the courage it takes to move forward when life changes in an instant.

         

        In This Episode, We Discuss:

        • What disenfranchised grief is and why it matters
        • The unique pain of losing a close friend
        • How societal norms can minimize certain types of grief
        • The evolving nature of grief over time
        • Identity shifts after loss
        • The importance of community, validation, and support
        • 33 min
        • 54 - Landing on Planet Sh*thole: An Interview With Dr. Britta Wilson-Uter After Her Husband’s Unexpected Death

          In today’s episode, we explore the reality of sudden and unexpected loss, the kind of loss that fractures life into a clear before and after.

          I’m joined by Dr. Britta Wilson-Uter, who speaks with honesty, depth, and moments of gentle humor about continuing to live after the sudden death of her husband, Jeffrey. Britta offers a powerful and relatable metaphor for traumatic grief, describing it as landing on a new planet that looks familiar but feels completely unfamiliar.  A place where everything appears the same, yet nothing truly is.

          Together, we discuss the layered experience of grief, including:

          • The shock and disorientation of sudden loss
          • Traumatic grief and its impact on the body and nervous system
          • The often-overlooked reality of secondary losses
          • How relationships change after a death
          • What meaningful support actually looks like in the aftermath of loss - and what doesn’t
          • Britta’s reflections are generous, grounded, and deeply human. This conversation offers validation for those navigating grief, as well as insight for anyone wanting to better support someone who is.

            I’m deeply grateful to share Britta’s voice, wisdom, and lived experience with you today.

            45 min
          • 53 - Saying I'm Fine is Not Enough: An Interview With Bob O'Brien

            September is National Suicide Prevention and Awareness Month, a time when advocates, organizations, survivors, allies and communities come together to raise awareness and promote prevention.

            In this episode, Dr. Jennifer R. Levin speaks with Bob O’Brien, who shares the story of his son Aidan, who died by suicide just over six months ago.

            This conversation is being released on September 10, 2025 - World Suicide Prevention Day, during National Suicide Prevention Week. Together, we shine a light on suicide prevention, to reduce stigma, and encourage open dialogue about mental health and the devastating impact of suicide.

            In This Episode:

            • Suicide statistics and alarming trends among youth:
              • In 2023, more than 49,300 Americans died by suicide; one every 11 minutes (CDC).
              • Suicide rates among ages 10–24 increased 62% between 2007 and 2021 (CDC).
              • Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death for ages 10-14 and the 3rd for ages 15-24 (NAMI).
              • Why numbers represent not just data, but families and communities forever changed.
              • Bob O’Brien’s personal story of loss and the legacy of his son Aidan.
              • The importance of awareness, prevention, and open conversations around suicide.
              • Resources and support available for those who are struggling or grieving.
              • Resources & Support

                • If you or someone you love is experiencing suicidal thoughts or emotional distress, help is available: Dial or text 988 to connect with the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, available 24/7.
                • For more information and resources about coping after suicide, visit www.therapyheals.com.
                • Talking about suicide is not easy, but every conversation matters. Reaching out for help is a sign of strength—and each of us has the power to make a difference.

                  50 min
                • 52 - Grief Out Loud: An Interview With Jana Decristofaro Host of the Dougy Center Podcast

                  Today I'm joined by Jana DeCristofaro, Advocacy and Education Manager at Dougy Center: The National Grief Center for Children and Families. For over 20 years, Jana has been a steady presence in the world of grief support, facilitating peer groups, developing trainings and resources, and hosting the highly respected podcast Grief Out Loud.

                  In this episode, Jana shares how she first entered the field of grief work through Dougy Center’s pioneering peer support model, and how that framework continues to shape the compassionate, non-prescriptive way she holds space for children, teens, and adults who are grieving.

                  We also explore:

                  • The evolution of Grief Out Loud and what Jana has learned through over 300 conversations about loss
                  • Recurring themes that surface in the stories of grief she helps amplify
                  • How her own personal losses, especially the death of her dog, have deepened her connection to the work
                  • Why she favors offering “permission slips” over advice for those navigating grief
                  • This thoughtful, grounded conversation offers deep insight into what it means to support others through grief, and how grief, in turn, shapes us.

                    48 min
                  • 51 - Grieving your Twin: An Interview with Erin Gaffney

                    In this episode, Dr. Jennifer Levin is joined by grief specialist Erin Gaffney, who shares the personal story of losing her twin sister in a tragic accident 25 years ago. This life-altering loss not only shaped Erin’s own healing journey but also inspired her to support others through similar experiences. Today, she works with individuals grieving the death of a sibling, with a special focus on twin loss. Her personal experience with traumatic grief brings depth, compassion, and meaningful work with her clients.

                     

                    Key takeaways:

                    1. Erin opens up about the unique and often misunderstood grief that follows the loss of a twin, and how this traumatic experience led her to a career helping others navigate sibling and twin loss.
                    2. Jennifer and Erin explore the complexities of this kind of grief, the long-term impact of sudden death, and the paths toward healing and connection.
                    3.  

                      You can reach out to Erin at [email protected] or learn more by visiting her website: www.mirarigriefcoaching.com.

                       

                      To learn more about hope and guidance after sudden or unexpected death please visit therapyheals.com and to learn about my new book - The Traumatic Loss Workbook: powerful skills for navigating the grief caused by a sudden or unexpected death at www.therapyheals.com.

                      28 min
                    4. 50 - A Father’s Grief: An Interview with Ed Santos

                      Today's interview is with Ed Santos, a business executive whose life was forever altered by the unexpected suicide of his daughter, Sabrina. Ed has contemplated sharing his personal journey to help others who may be facing similar challenges for some time. In this interview he opens up about his understanding of mental health before Sabrina's death, the immediate grief he experienced after her death, and how his coping process has evolved over the course of two years.

                       

                      Ed shares his beliefs about grief, the role of therapy, and his reflections on the emotional complexities of losing a child. This conversation offers a raw, honest look at the unpredictable nature of traumatic grief and how the bond between a parent and child endures over time.

                       

                      Key Takeaways:

                      • Grief after a suicide loss of a child is life altering and indescribable.
                      • It is not always apparent when a loved one is struggling with a mental health challenge.
                      • Therapy and support groups can be important tools for processing the changing emotions associated with suicide loss.
                      • 52 min
                      • 49 - Born in the wake of traumatic grief: An Interview with Sara Cobb

                        Today's interview is with Sara Cobb, who begins her powerful story by sharing that she was born into traumatic grief. Sara explains that her older brother passed away less than a year before she was born, and she reflects on how this loss impacted her and her surviving sibling as they grew up.

                         

                        Sara goes on to describe how grief shaped her family life, influenced her career choices, and contributed to a second devastating loss she endured later in life. Despite these challenges, Sara has developed an incredible resource to help others who are grieving similar losses. My Grief Connection has played a significant role in her healing and the healing of others also facing multiple losses.

                         

                        Key Takeaways:

                        • Impact on Family Life: The loss of her brother deeply affected not only Sara but also her older sibling. She shares how grief influenced their family dynamic as they grew up and navigated life without their brother.
                        • Career Choices and Personal Struggles: Sara reveals how the grief she experienced informed her career path. Additionally, she opens up about the second devastating loss she faced later in her life and how it further shaped her understanding of grief.
                        • Developing a Resource for Grievers: One of the most impactful aspects of Sara’s journey is her creation of a resource designed to help others who are grieving similar losses. Mygriefconnection.org has become a valuable tool for many, contributing significantly to their healing process, particularly for those grieving multiple losses.
                        • 56 min

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