In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined once again by returning guest and fan fav, sex and relationships therapist, Jo Robertson, this time to talk about the very real dangers children are facing online.

Content Warning: This episode contains discussions around child grooming and online sexual exploitation. Listener discretion is advised. Please listen with care for yourself and others around you.

With nearly two decades of professional experience in sexual health, child development, and trauma, Jo brings deep expertise to the table as she breaks down the alarming trends in online harm. From predatory contact on social media platforms to the rise of self-generated sexual content among children, Jo reveals what’s really happening when kids are left to their own devices.

She shares her insights from working with the Before 16 campaign, which is lobbying to raise the legal age of social media access from 13 to 16. Jo explains why current laws and parental controls aren't enough, why big tech isn’t keeping pace with predators, and how New Zealand is falling far behind other nations in digital safety policy.

But this episode isn’t just about problems, it’s packed with practical advice. Jo outlines how to start tricky but essential conversations with children, and how parents can use both control and influence to keep their kids safe in the digital world.

This conversation is a must-listen for any parent or caregiver navigating the online world with kids.

Links as mentioned in the show:

• Before 16 Campaign & Petition
• Tricky Chats Parenting Course
• Yoti Age Verification Info
• RNZ Article: The teens saying no to social media (and yes to brick phones)

If you want to hear more from Jo, listen to her previous episodes on Untidy called, ‘Navigating New Sexual Landscapes with Jo Robertson’, ‘Sex and relationships Q&A (Part one) with Jo Robertson’, ‘Sex and relationships Q&A (Part two) with Jo Robertson’, on your favourite podcast app. 

You can find Jo and a lot of resources via her website https://www.jorobertson.org/, and on Instagram @jorobertson.therapy. You can also sign up for her parenting course @trickychatsparenting by visiting the Tricky Chats Parenting website.

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah revisit one of our most powerful conversations with author and researcher Kasey Edwards, the co-author of the books 'Raising Girls Who Like Themselves', and, 'Bringing up Boys who Like Themselves'. Kasey discusses what it really means to raise emotionally resilient boys in today’s world.

Kasey challenges the long-held idea that boys need to be ‘tough’ to survive, and suggests that resilience comes from helping boys develop emotional bravery. She explains how ‘toughness’ often leads to fragility, not strength, and why helping our boys feel, name, and carry their emotions is the key to raising good men.

This is a must-listen for anyone raising boys who want to grow into confident, connected, emotionally intelligent men.

To hear the full episodes with Kasey, head to:

• Raising kids who like themselves with Kasey Edwards on Spotify
• Raising kids who like themselves with Kasey Edwards on Apple

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this chaotic episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah come in hot (and festering) with gripping chat about the questionable states of their drink bottles and the confusing double standards of various hygiene rules.

Matilda gets hit on in a hotel lift and Hannah reveals how successful influencing has her with the facial skin of and infant. There’s full analysis of Apple Watch data she’s collected while having midday “Pilates” in committed example of ‘doin’ it for the pod’.

They unpack Kris Jenner’s impossibly smooth features and wonder where it ends ... and begins ... Then pay a visit to the cast of characters reading for parts in Matty’s head. Lastly, Hannah’s sage parenting advice gets turned around to bite her in the olfactory nerves. 

It’s unhinged, far too revealing, and full of giggles. Bon appetite!

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this punchy and powerful mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to parenting educator, Maggie Dent, about the impossible expectations placed on modern parents. From the myth of the perfect house to the mental load of keeping it all together, Maggie shares practical wisdom, humour, and one incredibly liberating tip that saved her sanity.

This is five precious minutes of solidarity, and, your permission slip to let go of the pressure, laugh at the chaos, and remember: you’re not failing — you’re just raising humans.

Maggie’s latest book, ‘Help Me Help My Teen’, is a guide for parents to help their teens when they're struggling with the challenges and increased pressures today’s teens are facing, i.e. vaping, anxiety, sexuality, school grades, self-harm and sexual harassment. Check it out!

Follow Maggie Dent on Instagram @maggiedentauthor, and find much more at her website maggiedent.com. Buy her books at Mighty Ape, Paper Plus or in audio book format. Maggie is also the host of The Good Enough Dad podcast and has hosted six seasons of the award-winning ABC podcast, Parental As Anything.

To hear the full episodes with Maggie, head to:

• Surfing the waves of adolescence with Maggie Dent of Spotify
• Surfing the waves of adolescence with Maggie Dent of Apple

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah speak with Dr Victoria Thompson, a clinical psychologist based in Ōtautahi Christchurch, about the juicy (often triggering) topic of attachment theory and how it show up in dating, relating, and parenting.

Ever wondered why you keep dating the same kind of person, feel panicked when someone pulls away, or find it hard to open up? In this episode, Dr Victoria Thompson unpacks how our early relationships shape us, how our attachment style influences how we love, connect, chase, avoid and fight in our adult lives, and, how we can use this knowledge to help nurture secure kids.

Victoria shares how we can move from anxious and avoidant attachment styles, toward secure attachment in relationships and parenting, with one small step at a time.

Victoria works in private practice in Christchurch and specialises in child and adolescent mental health, eating disorders, forensic psychology, and couples therapy. She's also a new mum and brings both professional expertise and personal honesty to this powerful kōrero.

Links as mentioned in the show:

• Find Victoria online www.victoriathompsonpsychology.com 
• Follow Dr Victoria Thompson on Instagrat @drvictoriathompson

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to Dr Stacy Sims to break down the science around ice baths for women, the benefits of saunas, and if science backs up contrast therapy. Here’s the mini episode with all you need to know! The science says women need to do things differently. While the internet’s busy telling us to jump into freezing water, Stacy explains that women get the benefits of cold therapy at a much warmer temp of around 15°C. Ice baths? Overkill. And contrast therapy? Turns out, the research doesn’t really back it. For real results, Stacy says keep your hot and cold sessions separate, skip the suffering, and lean into what actually works for your body. Stacy also shares her top three tips for longevity. Tune in for this ‘Best bit’ with the legendary Dr Stacy Sims.

To hear the full episodes with Stacy, head to:

• Puberty, power and progress with Dr Stacy Sims on Spotify
• Puberty, power and progress with Dr Stacy Sims on Apple
• Puberty, power and progress with Dr Stacy Sims on YouTube
• Dr Stacy Sims – Courses & Resources
• Follow Dr Stacy Sims @drstacysims.
• Book: Roar by Dr Stacy Sims

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah speak with Theophila Pratt, a Gloriavale cult survivor, qualified paediatric occupational therapist, author, and fierce advocate for freedom and healing. Theo, formerly known as Honey Faithful, grew up in Gloriavale, an isolated and highly controlled Christian community on the West Coast. At 18, she was cast out after challenging the regime, with nothing but a suitcase, a ticket to Auckland, and little understanding of how the outside world worked.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes discussion of religious trauma, psychological abuse, coercive control, childhood neglect, and sexual abuse. While we approach these topics with care and sensitivity, some content may be distressing for listeners. Please take care while listening and prioritise your wellbeing.

Theo shares what life inside Gloriavale was really like — from the oppressive rules that haunted every moment, to the calculated psychological control that deprived people of their individual identities, especially for girls and women. Theo talks about the subtle acts of rebellion that sparked her path to freedom, what it took to start again from scratch, and how she’s now helping others do the same.

Theo reflects on trauma, therapy, rage, spirituality, and walking a determined road to self-trust and reclaiming her voice and identity. Her memoir, ‘Unveiled: A Story of Surviving Gloriavale’ exposes the realities of life inside the cult and offers hope to those seeking freedom from high-control environments.

Links as mentioned in the show:

• Buy Unveiled by Theophila Pratt from https://www.theopratt.com/
• Gloriavale Leavers’ Trust: https://gloriavaleleavers.org.nz/
• Follow Theo on Instagram @lifeischoicenz
• Watch TVNZ documentary, Escaping Utopia

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to sex and relationships therapist, Jo Robertson, about how couples can reconnect emotionally and physically during the unsexy seasons of raising kids, working jobs, and navigating the fatigue of everyday life. Jo shares why desire doesn’t just “magically turn up at the supermarket,” how we can reframe sex as intentional intimacy, and the code words that can take a conversation from getting awkward to feeling fun.

Ever felt tapped out, touched out, or like intimacy has slipped off the priorities list? Whether you're struggling with mismatched libidos, fear of rejection, or simply feel like you're “never in the mood,” this one’s for you.

To hear the full episodes with Jo, head to:

• Sex and relationships Q&A (Part one) with Jo Robertson
• Sex and relationships Q&A (Part two) with Jo Robertson
• Navigating new sexual landscapes with Jo Robertson
• Follow Jo @jorobertson.therapy on Instagram

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

Don’t forget! Untidy is made for YOU — the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess! Follow the show and DM us on Instagram @untidypodcast or email [email protected]. Your stories and ideas to help shape the show! Find us online at Untidy podcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and her My Big Moments children’s books at @mybigmoments. Enter code UNTIDY at checkout for 10% off your order.

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In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah (Bean) are together again and giddy with the excitement of being reunited, but not ruling out bringing new friends into the mix. From fluid friendships and actual bodily fluids, to traumatic office flashbacks and passive-aggressive colleagues, the chat is a glittering constellation of unmoderated carnage. 

As mentioned in the show:

• Abi Mills Comedy — The co-worker that secretly hates you
• Ready for School book by My Big Moments

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

Don’t forget! Untidy is made for YOU — the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess! Follow the show and DM us on Instagram @untidypodcast or email [email protected]. Your stories and ideas to help shape the show! Find us online at Untidy podcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and her My Big Moments children’s books at @mybigmoments. Enter code UNTIDY at checkout for 10% off your order.

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In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk about what’s really on their minds — Turning into “feral dragons” with their kids, the art of repair after rupture, and why it’s not always on your preferred time schedule. There’s chat about the pressures we put on ourselves of parenting perfectly and why it’s crucial to learn how to give yourself grace and stay connected to the authenticity of your feelings. 

Grab your ice cream and listen in for a good, slightly unhinged kōrero about life’s less-than-reel-worthy moments.

To hear the full conversation, head to:

• Listen to ‘Surrendering to imperfection’ on Spotify
• Listen to ‘Surrendering to imperfection’ on Apple Podcasts

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

Don’t forget! Untidy is made for YOU — the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess! Follow the show and DM us on Instagram @untidypodcast or email [email protected]. Your stories and ideas to help shape the show! Find us online at Untidy podcast. Find Matilda at @matootles and get your copy of The Feel Good Guide. Find Hannah at @hannahedavison and her My Big Moments children’s books at @mybigmoments. Enter code UNTIDY at checkout for 10% off your order.

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