Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We’re here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God’s counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview. 

In today’s episode, we’re honored to welcome Dr. Matt and Cathy Jones, a couple whose wisdom runs deep. They’ll share some intentional decisions, daily rhythms, and faith-filled commitments that helped their three kids grow up confident in who God made them to be. No parent gets it all right, but Matt and Cathy offer hard-earned insight for anyone wanting to raise kids secure in their God-given identity.

Summit’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents.

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch

*Biblical Truths About Your Kid’s Identity & How to Help Them Thrive—Christopher L. Reese

*What Do I Say When . . . ?: A Parent's Guide to Navigating Cultural Chaos for Children and Teens—Andrew and Christian Walker

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries! As parents, we know life can sometimes feel disorienting, overwhelming, maybe even upside-down. We’re here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God’s upside-down kingdom and way of life.

On today’s episode, we’re doing something special. We’re bringing back all the hosts from our previous episodes for a roundtable conversation where they’ll tackle some of the most pressing, real-life questions about gender, sexuality, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in today’s cultural landscape. These are the kinds of topics that families wrestle with around the dinner table, in late-night conversations, and in moments of quiet reflection. It’s a chance to hear practical wisdom, biblical insight, and honest discussion from trusted voices you’ve already gotten to know.

Summit’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents.

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers &  Dr. Kathy Koch

*The Anxious Generation—Jonathan Haidt

*Secure Daughters, Confident Sons: How Parents Guide Their Children into Authentic Masculinity 7 Femininity—Glenn T. Stanton

*Screen Kids—Arlene Pellicane

*How to Positively Introduce Gender to Your Child: A Parent’s Guide—Katie Bergford

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We’re here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God’s counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview. 

On today’s episode, we’re going to discuss with Dr. Roger Erdvig and Dr. Maggie Pope what it looks like to teach your kids to embody a biblical worldview. It’s not enough for our kids to just know the correct answers; we want them to live it out. The way of Jesus is not only true, it is also good and beautiful. We want our kids to have a holistic faith that includes their head, heart, and habits. We’ve laid the groundwork in previous episodes for raising gender-confident kids; now let’s put that into practice.

Summit’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents.

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Beyond Biblical Integration: Immersing You and Your Students in a Biblical Worldview—Roger Erdvig 

*Parent Kit: Sexuality & Identity

*God & the Transgender Debate: What Does the Bible Actually Say about Gender Identity?—Andrew T. Walker

On today’s episode, we’re going to discuss how a biblical worldview clarifies what gender is and how it offers a flourishing identity for our kids today. Dr. Jeff Myers, president of Summit Ministries, joins us to share what the biblical metanarrative has to say about identity, gender, and so much more. Let’s journey together!

Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, is written to come alongside parents with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically based resources for parents, check out Summit.org/parents.

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch

*Screen Kids & Parents Rising—Arlene Pellicane

*Transgenderism, the Bible, & How to Help— Jason Barker

*Understanding Gender Ideology & Transgenderism—Christopher L. Reese

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We’re here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God’s counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview.

On today’s episode, we’re diving into what it means to help our kids build a foundation of gender confidence by focusing on five core needs. Dr. Kathy Koch joins us to share her wisdom, offering practical ways parents can root their children’s identity in God’s truth. Let’s journey together!

Dr. Kathy’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written with Dr. Jeff Myers, is packed with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out: Summit.org/parents. 

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch

*The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, & the Road to Sexual Revolution—Carl R. Trueman

*Parenting: 14 Gospel Principles That Can Radically Change Your Family—Paul David Tripp

*How Did We Get Here? Identity, Sexuality, & Gender—Steve Wierenga

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries! Parenting today can feel disorienting, like the world’s been flipped upside down. But you’re not alone. In a culture that often pushes against biblical truth, this podcast is here to equip and encourage you with practical insight and Christ-centered wisdom for the parenting journey.

At Summit, we believe parents are the single greatest influence on a child’s faith. Together, we’ll explore what it means to raise kids who thrive, embrace God’s truth, live out a biblical worldview, and follow Jesus in his beautifully counter-cultural way of life.

In our very first episode, we’ll dive into what it means to raise gender-confident kids and why this conversation is essential for every parent today. Our guests are Dr. Jeff Myers, president of Summit Ministries, and Dr. Kathy Koch, president of Celebrate Kids. Let's journey together! 

Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy’s newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, is written to come alongside parents with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn’t a book just for families in crisis—it’s for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God’s good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com.

For more practical, biblically based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents.

Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: 

*Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch

*Gender Norms and True Manhood—Timothy Fox

*Why Would God Make Us Gendered?—Pastor Ken Robertson

Do you feel overwhelmed by the responsibility of helping your kids see the world the way God does? Does parenting sometimes leave you feeling disoriented—like you're spinning upside-down? 

You're not alone. We love our kids and want more than anything for them to grow up with flourishing faith. Each episode of this podcast will give you practical insight, biblical wisdom, and encouragement for the journey. We're here to walk through both the hard stuff and the everyday stuff with you. By connecting truth with relationships, we can create a powerful, lasting influence in a child's life. When our kids experience both—the clarity of biblical truth and the security of God’s love, and yours—it creates a space for real transformation.

If parenting feels upside-down sometimes, that’s okay—following God’s design often is upside-down compared to everything around us, and that’s exactly what makes it powerful.

Welcome to Upside-Down Parenting from Summit Ministries. Let’s journey together.