Mark Weisbrot and Francisco Rodríguez join us to discuss their Lancet article, co-authored with Silvio Rendón, "Effects of international sanctions on age-specific mortality: a cross-national panel data analysis," and their articles based on that research, "Sanctions can kill as many people as wars" (Financial Times), and "Rethink sanctions. They’re killing as many people as war does" (LA Times). "The Moment of Truth" with Jeff Dorchen follows the interview.

Check out Mark and Francisco's study, co-authored with Silvio Rendón: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(25)00189-5/fulltext

Check out Mark's article in the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2025-07-24/united-states-sanctions-deaths

Check out Francisco's article at Financial Times: https://www.ft.com/content/99206b73-92c4-41f1-9677-d4a1e6fc78b1?accessToken=zwAGO8yGY2UgkdOZIGtzksRB8dOWd9Sh5vx4sQ.MEQCIFP6yeUhZIJ4mPS1-GjgdlEcQAaHOOh8YjxiUWaqlMAJAiB5JbhVt6_de4NuKcvk8TCwva2ZtyzJMBscOiQnyHKTiA&sharetype=gift&token=4d21afe8-c829-4682-8cd0-4ea688ff1ca7 (sorry about the long url)

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