Discussing Lisa Kudrow and Michael Patrick King's THE COMEBACK with Chi Chi's podcasting mother and the original auteur herself, Jack -- just Jack, from The Perfume Nationalist. Getting older and gayer, finding art and meaning through the rituals of torment and humiliation. The homes of old, lonely men. Spider eyes.

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