First, Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag give us an update on their lives (00:01). Then, The Ringer’s Van Lathan joins the podcast for a discussion about Speidi’s heyday at TMZ (14:40), confronting Kanye (29:49), the worst celebrities to encounter (43:02), his firing from TMZ (44:45), and the unaired interview with Travis Kelce’s ex Kayla Nicole on ‘Higher Learning’ (1:02:34).

Hosts: Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag

Guest: Van Lathan

Producers: Chelsea Stark-Jones, Amelia Wedemeyer, Aleya Zenieris, and Devon Renaldo

Theme Song: Heidi Montag

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