Caffeinators, get in-we're going to the land down under! For this episode, we headed all the way to Sydney, Australia to chat with Melissa Shoard! Melissa is a VTS(ECC) with a whole bunch of other credentials that we asked her to explain. We chatted about education and credentialing in Australia, her work with the VNCA, her podcast that she records, and so much more! This was such a fun episode, you definitely want to check it out. These stories from our colleagues around the world are not to be missed.

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