Vicarious

By Alex Scott & Karen White

"Exploring our creative lives and the habits we've built to sustain them." Co-hosts Alex Scott and Karen White are two musicians and longtime friends on a mission to explore all things creative by cha... more

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The podcast currently has 33 episodes available.

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September 13, 2023Chris Sallis-Lyon on "The Mall-tiverse," being a good hang, and committing to the bit
We’re back baby! It’s the season 2 premiere, and Alex and Karen are joined by comedy musician Chris Sallis-Lyon to talk all about his debut EP “The Mall-tiverse” (released under the name “Chriaus”) and how his love for comedy has shaped his musicianship. They also talk about his work as a session drummer and explore the role that ego plays in one’s creativity, for better or worse.
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Follow Chris: @csallislyon
Listen to The Mall-tiverse for free on chriaus.hearnow.com/the-mall-tiverse
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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1h 19min
August 23, 2023BONUS EP: Alex and Karen talk Summer Slumps, & Quick Fire Questions
It’s a bonus episode! Alex and Karen sit down for a lighthearted chat about mental health struggles and the creative slump that crops up for them during their experiences with the summertime blues. Fun! They also talk about some of the things that are bringing them joy during this tricky time and play a rousing round of Quick-Fire Questions: Guilty Pleasure Edition.
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For a sneak peak of the questions asked, check out the answers provided by our editor extraordinaire Will!
Guilty pleasure lazy day activity: watching sports! live games or just youtube content / highlights
A reality show you’d go on: Storage Wars
Trashy/weird snack: peanut butter, sesame seeds, and panko breadcrumbs
First celeb crush: Hollaback era Gwen Stefani or early Rihanna
Comfort meal: Baked potato bar with lots of toppings to choose from
Movie you know every line to: School of Rock
Last show you binge watched: Break Point (Netflix show about young pro tennis players)
Best Halloween costume: no idea in my memory now! all i can remember is being the King of Spades with a poster board version of the card stuck to me and a mustache/hat
Guilty pleasure pop singer: Morgan Wallen or Post Malone
TV or movie character you would bring to life to be your best friend: C-3PO

We’d love to read your answers too! Send us an email or dm us on Instagram to share!
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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55min
July 05, 2023Season 1 Finale ft. guest host Will Chernoff
It’s the last episode of season 1! To celebrate, Alex and Karen are joined by their podcast producer Will Chernoff to answer some burning questions from their illustrious guests and the three of them reflect on their experience making the season.
Questions answered:
Jamie Lee: What was the intention behind creating this pod and choosing guests? Do you feel like you earned what you were hoping for?
Alana Yee: What kind of music do you mostly listen to?
Kria Wall: How have you discovered a creative balance for yourself? If not, what are you working on/what would you like to work on to find it, if you’re needing more balance? (i.e. rest)
Cary Campbell: What is your understanding of limits and limitations in your creative process/practices?
Alana: What’s your Chinese zodiac animal?
Alana: If you could invite 5 people over for dinner (dead or alive) who would they be?
Kria: How does your gender affect your art? Do you think gender takes a role in how/what you create, or is it irrelevant?
Alana: What did you want to grow up to be as a child?
Kria: Have you tried any new creative endeavours recently, and if so, did you have an expectation for how you’d do? Did it go the way you thought?
Chris Johnson: What was your worst instance of writers / creative block and how did you side step it?
Alana: What’s your usual process when writing a song/music?
Alana: What’s the most weirdest or odd job you’ve ever had to do as an artist? (Including regular jobs not just art related ones)
Josh Eastman: I would love to hear how you maintain an excitement around "creative" pursuits, and how your relationship with art and creation has changed and how it's remained the same!

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Follow Will:
-Instagram: @williamchernoff @vancouverjazz
https://www.williamchernoff.com
https://www.rhythmchanges.ca

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Check out Julia's ceramics @juliawhiteceramics
(Literally made an instagram account and sold her first pieces a week after recording this episode)
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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1h 26min
June 28, 2023Dust Cwaine on Mentorship, Evolution, Tarot and Symbolism
For the last interview of the season, Alex and Karen chat with musician and drag performer Dust Cwaine - and the topics are plentiful! They explore Dust’s creative evolution, from their start as a musical theatre kid and karaoke enthusiast to their discovery of drag performance and their eventual transition into music. They get into the process of recording their new EP 17 as well as their first full-length album Arcana (2022), and touch on so many important topics along the way. Dust’s thoughtful and intentional approach to their art and life is evident in the way they talk about their creative process, spirituality, self-discovery and evolving sense of identity, and their belief in the importance of mentorship and community.
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Follow Dust:
Instagram: @unicornriverchild
Linktree
Check out Dust’s new EP 17 (2023) and their album Arcana (2022)
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Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
Kylie V
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1h 4min
June 21, 2023Alana Yee on Contemporary Dance, Starting Late, and Process
Alex and Karen talk to contemporary dancer and art show curator Alana Yee about their journey to become a professional dancer, where that journey has taken them, and how trusting their intuition has been a guiding force in their life. They explore Alana’s thoughts on collaboration through different artistic mediums, creating opportunities for oneself and others (such as their dance art group Mega Pash Action and their performance art platform S.A.M.P.L.E), and how Alana incorporates pleasure activism in their creative practice.
Follow Alana on Instagram:
@megapashaction
@sampleartists
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
Creative Recommendations:
Edam Studio
Pleasure Activism - Adrienne Maree Brown
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1h 26min
June 14, 2023Jamie Lee on Moving to Canada, Standing Out, Coming Out and Staying Curious
Alex and Karen chat with musician and composer turned game audio professional Jamie Lee about transitioning from her childhood in South Korea to her teen and adult life in Vancouver. They dive into the cultural and financial challenges Jamie faced and how her determination and curious spirit has led her through her journey to become a musician and, more recently, a sound designer for the video game development company A Shell in the Pit. They also explore the Korean translation of the word creativity, and how language and cultural perception changes our understanding of ourselves and the word around us.
Follow Jamie:
Twitter: @JamieLeeSounds
Website: jamieleesounds.com
Check out Jamie's story published in Rhythm Changes: https://www.rhythmchanges.ca/burned-out-jazz-musician-recovery-game-audio/
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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1h 15min
June 07, 2023Josh Eastman on Starting a Non-Profit Music Studio, Community Building and Inclusive Space
Alex and Karen sit down with music producer and mixing engineer Josh Eastman to talk about the different creative paths he's taken and how they led him to open Helm Studios, a non-profit music studio that supports low-income 2SLGBQIA+, BIPOC, and disabled artists in the music community. They explore Josh’s values-centred approach to his work - discussing ways to make space for others, and the importance of allyship.
Follow Josh on Instagram: @grammywinningnepobaby
Check out Helm Studios
Pre-Save Josh's Single Here
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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Creative Recommendations:
The Big Reveal
Rose Butch
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1h 14min
May 31, 2023Chris Johnson on “Mr. Franchise,” Self-Educating, Reviewing and Writing Movies and Music
Alex and Karen talk to musician, screenwriter, and music/movie reviewer Chris Johnson about attending film school and his own film and music education. They touch on how his experience working on movie and television productions after film school shaped his ethos on creating art, and how it continues to influence his own work as both a screenwriter and musician.
Follow Chris:
Instagram: @shoreloser
Bandcamp: https://shoreloser.bandcamp.com/album/the-quintessential-amateur
Mr. Franchise Podcast: Apple Podcasts and on Spotify
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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1h 5min
May 24, 2023Cary Campbell on Educating Openness, Decolonizing Education, “The Group”
Alex and Karen talk to educator and musician Cary Campbell about how his early challenges in learning affected his educational trajectory. They also talk about intergenerational learning and potential; his journey into academia; and the land-based perspective/curriculum he has developed in his work as an academic and lecturer at Simon Fraser University.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
- Learn about his ongoing research @ The Group (multimodal research)
Educating Openness Article: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/695567
The Improvising Scholar Article: https://philosophasters.org/articles/2018/3/25/the-improvising-scholar-some-early-observations-on-the-practice-of-research
Flip The Map: https://thegrouplegroupe.org/flip-the-map
Please find Cary’s published articles here:
- SFU Faculty Profile
- Find all published research @ ResearchGate
Other Works Mentioned:
Conversations with Khatsalano - J.S. Matthews
Then We Take Berlin - Stan Persky
Ryan Knighten (author)
Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
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1h 9min
May 17, 2023Kria Wall on Diversifying Creativity, Finding Balance, and Self-Expression
Alex and Karen talk to musician, composer, music educator and painter Kria Wall about their creative journey and their multifaceted talents. Kria also shares how coming out as non-binary and understanding their neurodivergence has influenced their creative expression.
Follow Kria Wall’s projects here: @kriapaints and @spindletheband
Check out their music on Spotify

Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod
Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at [email protected]
Credits:
Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff.
Music and artwork by Alex Scott.

Check out Alex’s solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify
Check out Karen’s band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify
Creative Recommendation:
The Last Black Man in San Francisco
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59min

FAQs about Vicarious:

How many episodes does Vicarious have?

The podcast currently has 33 episodes available.