Victoria Panova, Vice Rector of HSE and Head of Russia’s BRICS Expert Council, joins us to discuss the history of BRICS, Russia’s attitude toward the association, and the differences between BRICS and other international formats, such as the G7 and the G20.

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*The Trialogue Podcast is hosted by the Stimson Center and produced by University FM.

Time Stamps:

• 02:01 Russia and the G7/G8
• 08:35 Origins of BRICS
• 09:50 Primakov and the idea of RIC
• 16:36 First meetings of BRIC in Russia
• 18:52 Adding South Africa to BRICS
• 21:34 China-India tensions
• 24:04 Changes in BRICS over the last 15 years
• 29:27 Global South, Global East, Global Majority?
• 31:31 How has the Ukraine war changed BRICS?
• 33:36 BRICS and the West
• 44:23 Could the US join BRICS?
• 45:55 BRICS expansion