(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Joby Warrick is a 2x Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, author, and Middle East Expert. Since 1996, Joby has been at the Washington Post, where he currently serves as a National Security Reporter. His three books –– “The Triple Agent,” “Black Flags,” & “Red Line” (the second of which won him a Pulitzer Prize) –– are all Best-Sellers (links below).

“Black Flags” by Joby Warrick: https://amzn.to/3WdiGwp

“The Triple Agent” by Joby Warrick: https://amzn.to/3kgNvmu

“Red Line” by Joby Warrick: https://amzn.to/3XxTe5W

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0:00 - Joby’s remembers his first Pulitzer Prize

6:08 - Joby explains his first book on the infamous 2009 Attack on CIA Base in Afghanistan

14:48 - The hot Jordanian Translator who got Joby into bomber’s house; No judgment journalism

26:13 - Homeland’s CIA accuracy; General McChrystal’s Iraqi kid story

35:51 - The CIA’s tracking of Bin Laden in the leadup to Sepp 011

38:55 - Joby’s Nucalear Weapons reporting during Iraq War; Building trust in Middle East

45:20 - Rogue translators & developing sources

50:32 - How to determine whether CIA sources are telling the truth

56:39 - The Tom O’Neill WAPO CIA source story

1:03:27 - King Abdullah II of Jordan; Jordan & its role in the Middle East

1:13:28 - Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, The Founder of ISIS; The murder of Nick Berg

1:20:50 - Al Zarqawi’s radicalization in prison

1:24:29 - Al Zarqaqi meets Bin Laden; CIA & Zarqawi’s early standoffs

1:29:50 - King Abdullah told President Bush NOT to invade Iraq; Sectarian Violence (Sunnis & Shiites)

1:36:36 - Al Qaeda makes Al Zarqawi a franchisee; Iraq’s implosion post-invasion

1:41:30 - Nada Bakos - CIA’s chief Al Zarqawi targeter; How the US merked Al Zarqawi

1:46:33 - ISIS vs. ISIL naming; Al Baghdadi succeeds Al Zarqawi

1:50:19 - The Arab Spring of 2011; Al Nusra in Syria; ISIS leadership doesn’t do dirty work

1:56:22 - When did ISIS come on Joby’s radar?

2:01:05 - Caliphate explained; the brutality of ISIS

2:05:49 - The Kurds; 20th Century European Agreements that led to Middle East violence

2:14:04 - Strongman leaders; Bashar Al-Assad & Syria

2:21:43 - The Yazidi Genocide

2:26:56 - How the US neutralized ISIS

2:35:12 - The US Drone Program; The War in Yemen

2:42:37 - What’s happening in Iran right now?

2:48:32 - Iran’s race to a nuclear weapon

2:52:46 - Israel’s new far-right government

2:56:52 - The Jordanian Intelligence Service (Mukhabarat); The Laurence Foley hit

3:00:34 - Joby’s Middle East schedule; Joby’s upcoming book project

Intro Credits:

“Homeland” (Showtime)

“The Looming Tower” (Hulu)

“Body of Lies” (2008)

“Munich” (2005)

“The Physician” (2013)

“Zero Dark Thirty” (2012)

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