On today’s episode, Andy is joined by Mike Rowe, television host, narrator, and founder of the Mike RoweWORKS Foundation. Best known for his show Dirty Jobs, Mike has spent years spotlighting the essential workers who keep the country running and advocating for the skilled trades through scholarships and public outreach.

In this conversation, Mike talks about the growing labor shortage in America and the cultural shift that led to the decline in respect for hands-on work. He and Andy explore how education, media, and policy have steered young people away from trades, the consequences of that shift, and what it will take to reverse the trend.

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On the finale of Black Project, a surprise visit from a CIA agent and an aerospace executive sets a Stanford professor on an unexpected journey. What begins as a cryptic request quickly draws one of the world’s leading scientists into the covert world of crash retrieval operations—and onto the trail of a possible UFO crash site.

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On today's episode, Andy sits down with Sarah Adams, a former CIA targeter, to discuss her journey from academia to the frontlines of counterterrorism. They unpack the complexities of intelligence work, the shifting dynamics of the Syrian conflict, and the influence of Iran and Russia in destabilizing the region. Sarah shares an unfiltered view on the current failures in intelligence gathering, the resurgence of terrorist threats like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, and the critical role local law enforcement must play in safeguarding American communities.

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On the third episode of Black Project, the mysterious world of special access programs is uncovered, shedding light on the covert work being done by entities like Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works division, DARPA, and aerospace contractors. With questions mounting, the discussion turns to whether these organizations have developed UFO technology, and what might be hidden within these top-secret projects.

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On today’s episode, Andy welcomes back investigative journalists Nathan Paul Southern and Lindsey Kennedy for a follow-up conversation on the rise of scam compounds in Southeast Asia.

Nathan and Lindsey, involved with The Eyewitness Project, expose how these criminal networks exploit vulnerable people, launder money through legitimate industries like sports sponsorships, and use technology—including AI—to evolve their tactics.

Together, they break down the global web of organized crime and corruption, the human cost behind the scams, and why empathy, awareness, and coordinated action are more important than ever.

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On the second episode of Black Project, strange and unexplainable encounters with mysterious orbs are explored, with reports coming from fighter pilots, Navy sailors, and backcountry hikers. These orbs, first seen in the combat zones of World War II, have now sparked growing interest among some of the most powerful members of Congress. The stories surrounding these phenomena raise questions that continue to captivate those in both military and political circles.

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On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Thomas Drake—a former senior executive at the NSA, Air Force veteran, software expert, whistleblower.

While at the NSA, Drake exposed serious issues including multi-billion-dollar fraud, intelligence failures, and a secret post-9/11 mass surveillance program. He supported the use of ThinThread, a cost-effective and privacy-protecting tool, but it was rejected in favor of Trailblazer—a more expensive program lacking privacy safeguards.

In 2005, Drake anonymously shared unclassified information about NSA misconduct with a journalist. In 2010, he was charged with 10 felony counts under the Espionage Act but the case collapsed, and he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. That same year, he received the Ridenhour Prize for Truth-Telling.

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On the debut episode of Black Project, the untold story of the military’s secret pursuit of anti-gravitic craft is revealed. From the mysterious death of a Nazi weapons expert, to strange comments from aerospace executives, and the disappearance of a scientist on the brink of a groundbreaking discovery—this episode uncovers the high-stakes world of hidden programs and covert experiments. Are these technologies the result of extraterrestrial encounters, or are they the product of classified black projects kept hidden from the public for decades?

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What's behind the UAP phenomenon, drone incursions, and UFO sightings?

On the new Change Agents special four-episode docuseries Black Project, we talk with insiders, whistleblowers, and experts about special access programs, secretive aerospace industry breakthroughs, research into anti-gravity, and more. What if the technology isn't from another planet?

What if it's ours?

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On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and bestselling author known for her investigative work on government secrecy, military history, and national security. They dive into the stark realities of nuclear war, the differences between atomic and thermonuclear weapons, and the consequences of nuclear escalation. Jacobsen shares her research methods, insights on government transparency, and what she’s learned from those responsible for nuclear stewardship. They also explore Area 51, military technology, and the enduring fascination with UAPs.

To read more from Annie, check out her newest novel Nuclear War

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