First broadcast on FAB RADIO INTERNATIONAL at 19:00 on November 8 2020

In the fifth edition of VISION ON SOUND, SANDY McGREGOR returns to the studio to talk with me about politics, which, as we all know, is never discussed in polite society, so instead we talk about politically themed television programmes.

It's a long, wide-ranging chat covering programmes such as THE WEST WING, HOUSE OF CARDS, YES, MINISTER, THE THICK OF IT (about which I have to apologise on air for several startling errors which seems highly appropriate given the topic), and VEEP, amongst others, and, as ever, we run out of time to delve into any of them as deeply as we'd like to, but we hope it gives you an enjoyable hour of listening.

PLEASE NOTE - For Copyright reasons, musical content has to be removed for the podcast edition. All the spoken word content remains (mostly) as it was in the broadcast version. Hopefully this won't spoil your enjoyment of the show