In Episode 12 of Vision Quest, Ashley talks to the incredible genuine, thoughtful and hilarious comedian, writer, cartoonist, Josh Chodziesner about their mutual love of Chicago, the sad catchphrases they spat out as children and a relentless bit about eggs. Josh then delves into his topic for the episode, what he calls "unexceptional-ness" (and yes, he is trademarking this term so please credit him if you use it, kind regards). The two friends discuss the importance of staying in your lane, doing things for the sake of being happy and grounded, and past experiences where their motivations behind goals haven't lined up with their needs.