Alvy Ray Smith is the co-founder of Pixar. In his own words, he talks about his early experiments with computer graphics at Xerox PARC, work at Lucasfilm, and his opinions on Steve Jobs' contribution - or lack thereof - to Pixar.

Hosts: Leo Laporte and Adam Fisher

Guest: Alvy Ray Smith

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