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In this episode of Voices from the Field, bestselling author Chantal Burns speaks with psychiatrist and coach Dr Pam Pappas about what changes when we look beyond diagnosis, pathology and the medical model, and begin listening for the wisdom, health and resilience within.

Pam reflects on a profound experience that transformed how she works with people, and reveals the difference between conventional psychiatric thinking and a more human, relational and spiritually informed understanding of healing and recovery.

Together, Chantal and Pam explore trauma, PTSD, psychiatry, labels, the limits of diagnosis, and why “wisdom informed” therapy may offer a very different starting point for change.

This is a rich conversation for practitioners, whether you're working clinically or in a coaching capacity. They touch on the true nature of resilience, burnout, psycho-spiritual health, and the deeper intelligence that can guide our work from the inside out.

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You can also find Chantal’s bestselling books Bulletproof: Be Fearless and Resilient – No Matter What and Instant Motivation  available in all good  online book stores.