Kirk Franklin is joined by comedian and Emmy-winning producer, W. Kamau Bell for a nuanced conversation about politics, faith, and controversy.

Kamau discusses his documentary ‘We Need to Talk About Cosby’ and the complicated legacy of Bill Cosby, community & the Black church, atheism, his CNN show ‘United Shades of America’, and his obsession with Denzel Washington.

Good Words With Kirk Franklin is produced by RCAI & Somethin Else, and Sony Music Entertainment.

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