In this episode of Wake Up Look Up, Pastor Zach revisits one of the podcast’s most engaging conversations—how to hold both truth and love when it comes to sexuality and faith. Using Pope Francis’ mixed messaging on same-sex relationships as a launch point, Pastor Zach challenges listeners to surrender their personal definitions of love to God, who is love. Real love, he reminds us, means aligning with what God has said is true—even when it’s hard.

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Original episode: Pope Francis: Can We Truly Love LGBTQ+ Without Compromise?