In this episode of War Is Stupid: An Anti-War Podcast About War, Orli Matlow interviews Mara Kronenfeld, the executive director of UNRWA USA, discussing the history and mission of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East. They discuss the challenges faced by Palestinian refugees and the current humanitarian crisis in Gaza—where Israeli authorities are banning the import of paper and pens. They explore the misconceptions surrounding UNRWA's educational curriculum, the reports of employees’ involvement in the October 7th attacks, and the “marathon of misery” that has been the last 28 months. Mara shares personal stories from visiting Gaza, how being the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor informs her work, and her thoughts on the “Board of Peace” for Palestine that has zero Palestinians.