The conversation covers various topics including the legacy of former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, the changing decorum in politics, the expectations and persona of politicians, and the challenges of engaging with ordinary voters. The discussion also touches on the influence of social media, the centralization of authority within political parties, and the tendency for voters to be reactionary. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities and challenges of modern politics. The conversation covers various themes related to Canadian politics, including the possibility of the Conservative Party splintering, predictable cycles in Canadian politics, the general public's lack of interest in politics, the importance of effective marketing in politics, the Liberals' ineffective communication and marketing, improving material conditions of people's lives, the appeal of populist messages, the need for clear and engaging communication, referendums and decision-making, the role of politicians in decision-making, budgeting and public priorities, the monarchy and political structures, individual freedom and respect, electoral reform and political structures, and ending the monarchy in Canada.

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