We Are Human

We Are Human

By Andrea Peer and Susan LeonardsonBusinessEntrepreneurshipTechnology
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We Are Human episodes

  • AI Didn't Replace This Expert, It Multiplied Him with Preston Anderson

    Preston Anderson knows things about the tax code that most CPAs will never tell you. And now, thanks to AI, that knowledge is no longer locked inside one person's brain.

    In this episode, Andrea and Susan sit down with Preston, a tax strategist who built a 12-person firm around doing what most accountants refuse to do: using the tax code the way it was actually written.

    Preston is blunt about the industry, clear about what is legal, and completely unbothered by competition. He is also the last person you would expect to build a custom software app in 10 days with zero coding experience. And then he did exactly that.

    This conversation goes deep on what it actually looks like when original intelligence meets artificial intelligence, not as a replacement, but as a multiplier. Preston's story is a masterclass in why deep expertise is an asset in the AI era, not a liability.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why most CPAs leave serious money on the table, and what a real tax strategist does differently
    • How Preston built a full custom app on Replit in 10 days by dumping his frustrations into an AI tool instead of writing a single line of code
    • Why AI gives dangerously bad tax advice by default, and how an expert has to fight it to get to the right answer
    • What the pizza tracker analogy reveals about client trust, transparency, and the future of professional services
    • How Preston plans to take his own expertise and put it into the hands of accountants across the country

    Connect with Preston Anderson:

    • Facebook: facebook.com/Preston312

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    1 hr 11 min
  • How Creatives Survive When AI Can Do Your Job with Alyssa Aviles

    Every creative is asking the same question right now, "if AI can do what I do, what am I actually worth?"

    Design mentor and funnel strategist Alyssa Aviles has been sitting with that question, honestly and out loud. In this conversation with Andrea and Susan, she shares what it really feels like to navigate a 16-year creative career as AI reshapes the industry, and what she's discovered about the part of human creativity that no tool will ever be able to manufacture.

    Alyssa is a Canva and ClickFunnels ambassador, award-winning funnel designer, and the author of the upcoming book Create a Better Brand, a guide to building an authentic personal brand in a world where AI is replicating everything except your soul.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why the speed AI creates is quietly killing creativity, and what to do about it
    • How human intuition differs from AI pattern recognition, and why that gap is exactly where creatives will thrive
    • Alyssa's personal branding framework: why it starts with knowing yourself before thinking about your audience
    • The 10% of expert work that AI can't replace, and how to build your future around it
    • Why sharing your real life on social media is one of the most strategic brand moves you can make right now


    Connect with Alyssa:

    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thelovelylyss444
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelylyss/
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thelovelylyss

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    1 hr 12 min
  • Can AI Replace a Coach? Chris Cameron on Where the Line Really Is

    There's a question keeping every course creator and coach up at night right now: if AI can answer almost any question instantly, what are people actually paying you for?

    Chris Cameron, VP of Coaching Programs at Prime Mover and ClickFunnels and the man behind Russell Brunson's 2CCX and Prime Mover coaching programs, joins Andrea and Susan to answer it.

    With 26 years alongside Russell and a front-row seat to how the industry is shifting, Chris brings a grounded, experience-first perspective to the AI conversation that cuts through the noise.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why AI can deliver information but cannot replicate the lived experience that creates real transformation
    • How Russell Brunson's 10-80-10 framework keeps humans in the driver's seat while letting AI do the heavy lifting
    • The hybrid facilitated learning model that Prime Mover uses to scale coaching without losing the human element
    • Why disclosing that something is AI actually increases trust and tolerance from your audience
    • How the "time-money loop" works: why people give you time before money, and how human connection drives retention and ascension
    • The three types of learning, and why only one of them actually requires a coach

    Connect with Chris Cameron:

    • Website: sellingonline.com
    • Podcast: ClickFunnels Radio
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cameron.chris001

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    59 min
  • The 15 Brain Codes That Biohack You Back to Life with Lori Olds

    Your brain was designed to heal your body. So why isn't it working?

    Lori Olds, naturopathic practitioner and founder of Ascend Brain Center, joins Andrea and Susan to break down the science of why so many of us are stuck in chronic fight-or-flight, and what it actually takes to get out.

    From microcurrent neurofeedback to haptic frequency patches that send corrective signals through your skin directly to your brain, Lori's work is part cutting-edge science, part reminder that your body already knows what to do when given the right signal.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why your nervous system gets rewired around fight-or-flight as the new normal, and how to reverse it
    • What microcurrent neurofeedback is and why it can work when talk therapy hasn't
    • How haptic patches use your skin to send corrective frequency signals to the brain, with zero ingredients entering your body
    • What each of the 15 brain codes does, from Peace and Liberty to Joy, Defend, Zen, and Kick It
    • Why Lori believes a regulated nervous system is the foundation for showing up fully human

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    Use this link and both Lori and Susan will benefit: https://www.susanleonardson.com/superpatch

    Connect with Lori Olds:

    • Website: ascendbraincenter.com

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    Stay Human. Stay Connected.

    Disclaimer: The content shared in this episode is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Andrea Peer, Susan Leonardson, and their guests are not licensed medical or healthcare professionals, and nothing discussed should be taken as medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before making any changes to your health routine or treatment plan.

    1 hr 3 min
  • The Senses AI Will Never Own with Mark Stern

    AI can write your emails, build your funnel, and personalize every touchpoint in your client journey. But what it can't do is create what happens off screen, the moment your client tears open a box, runs their fingers across the pages, catches the scent of something unexpected, and feels the weight of a medal they actually earned.

    That experience is entirely, irreducibly human. And according to Mark Stern, most online business owners are leaving it completely on the table.

    Mark is the founder of Custom Box Agency, and in this conversation with Andrea and Susan, he makes the case that we've been so seduced by the efficiency of digital that we've accidentally stripped out the very thing that makes transformation stick: the body.

    Experience is perceived through the senses, and every fully digital product is working with two of the five. The other three are wide open, and almost nobody in the online business world is touching them.

    This is an episode about reclaiming the senses AI will never own, and building a business around them.

    In this episode, you'll hear:

    • Why digital-only delivery is failing clients at the moment they need momentum most
    • How tapping into touch, smell, and physical interaction creates deeper memory and identity shifts
    • Why the decline of the info product is actually an invitation to do something more human
    • How to design a physical product experience that builds confidence, gamifies progress, and keeps clients engaged for the long haul
    • Why the rise of AI is making physical products more powerful, not less, and what "AI-enabled" boxes actually look like in practice

    Connect with Mark Stern:

    • Website: customboxagency.com
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.sterno
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marustern/

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    • Work with us: https://GeekOutConnect.com
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    If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. It helps more humans find us!

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    53 min
  • She Outperformed Facebook's Algorithm With One Simple Strategy with Jenna Larson

    What if the secret to selling more was simply being more human? Jenna Larson has built two software companies, GroupTrack CRM™ and ANA AI™, on exactly that bet, and she's watching it pay off.

    Jenna joins Andrea and Susan to pull back the curtain on the philosophy, the frameworks, and the real story behind organic sales done right. From managing 300 students a week in corporate to coxing Olympic rowers to lovingly forcing entrepreneurs out of their own way, Jenna has spent her entire career mastering one thing: understanding what humans actually need and then delivering it without apology.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why Jenna believes human connection is about to become the ultimate flex in business, and what that means for how you show up
    • How GroupTrack CRM™ is using AI to surface buying signals in your DMs so you spend time on the conversations most likely to convert
    • What ANA AI™ actually does, and why scraping social media for your customers' exact words is the fastest path to offers that sell
    • The "start as a robot, respond as a human" framework for organic outreach that removes the "ick" factor completely
    • Why Jenna turned down full automation even at the risk of losing her company, and what that decision is teaching the market

    Connect with Jenna Larson:

    • Instagram: @OrganicSalesSystem
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jenna.d.larson
    • Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/967342747056980


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    • Watch episodes: https://WeAreHuman.com
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    53 min
  • Are You Actually Connecting, or Just Networking? With Turner Leslie

    Some people are naturally wired to connect. Turner Leslie is one of them, and he's turned that gift into a career.

    From managing Dream 100 relationships at ClickFunnels to building out personalized gift campaigns at Mailbox Power, Turner has spent years proving one thing, people do business with people they genuinely like.


    And there isn't a shortcut.

    In this episode, Andrea and Susan sit down with Turner to unpack what real human connection looks like in business, why the market is hungry for it right now, and how busy entrepreneurs can use technology to stay personal at scale.


    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why connection is hardwired into some people from birth, and how you can develop it too
    • The relationship-first framework Turner used to build Dream 100 programs at ClickFunnels
    • How to track your key relationships using a simple tiered spreadsheet (no fancy CRM required)
    • Why the ask always comes after the relationship, and what happens when you flip that order
    • How Mailbox Power helps businesses send personalized physical gifts and cards automatically, so the human touch doesn't get lost when you scale
    • Turner's PRRR Method: Prospecting, Recognition, Retention, Reputation, and Referrals
    • The one daily habit Turner swears by to stay grounded when the world keeps pushing screens

      Learn more about Mailbox Power here: https://geekoutconnect.com/mailbox

      Connect with Turner Leslie:
      • Instagram: @turnerleslie

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    55 min
  • You're Not as Present as You Think You Are with Sarah Grace Allred

    When was the last time you walked away from a conversation and thought, "That person was completely, fully there with me"?

    Not checking their phone. Not waiting for their turn to talk. Not trying to impress you. Just, there.

    That's what it feels like to spend time with Sarah Grace Allred. And in this episode, Andrea and Susan go deep trying to figure out exactly how she does it, and whether the rest of us can learn it too.

    What starts as a conversation about presence turns into something much bigger: a real exploration of what makes human connection possible in a world that keeps pulling us away from each other.

    Sarah's secret weapon is a single question she carries into every room she enters: "How are we alike?" Not what can I get from this person, not how do I look, not what do I need to say next. Just, where do we meet?

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • The question Sarah asks in every conversation that creates instant connection, and how to make it your own
    • Why the ordinary, unsung parts of someone's life matter more than their accomplishments when it comes to real relationship
    • How a lesson from Sarah's late grandmother (a tobacco farmer who was unfazed by prophets) shaped the way she moves through the world
    • The difference between the hero's journey and the heroine's journey, and what it reveals about what people actually need before they'll trust you
    • Why making space for hesitation, fear, and uncertainty builds deeper loyalty than confidence ever could
    • What it means to let another person's lostness, and your own, be the bridge between you

    This one is for anyone who has ever wanted to be better at showing up for the people in their life, in conversations, in business, and everywhere in between.

    Connect with Sarah Grace Allred:

    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sarahgraceallred

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    • Website: https://wearehumanshow.com
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    40 min
  • Mike Walker on The Hidden Reason Your Best Clients Cancel

    Your best client just had their best month ever, then canceled the next day. Sound familiar? The reason might not be what you think.

    Andrea sits down with Mike Walker, CEO of ClientBloom.ai and bestselling author of The Exceptional Experience and Systems Thinking Visionary, to unpack why traditional engagement metrics lie to us, why caring too much about the wrong clients drains your business, and what actually keeps people coming back month after month.

    Mike's journey from shaping surfboards in his parents' garage to building an international brand to creating AI-powered client retention software gives him a rare lens on what it means to build something people love, both as a product and as an experience.

    In this episode, you'll discover:

    • Why high engagement doesn't always mean a healthy client, and the behavioral signal that actually predicts cancellation
    • The critical difference between clients who need your help and those who deserve it, and how to tell them apart
    • Why identity transformation matters more than motivation for long-term client success
    • How the "dating to marriage" transition in client relationships is where most businesses drop the ball
    • The pattern recognition approach that catches churn signals humans miss, like a client reopening their contract email six times in 24 hours

    Resources Mentioned:

    • MikeGWalker.com
    • ClientBloom.ai

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    58 min
  • Laurence Santer on Protecting What AI Can't Touch

    What happens when you use AI every single day, but your audience can literally feel when something isn't authentic?

    Laurence Santer lives at that exact intersection, and what he's learned will change how you think about AI in your business.

    Laurence is the CMO and operations officer for Hay House author Heidi Sawyer, whose business serves over 80,000 intuitive sensitives, people with a heightened ability to sense what's real and what isn't.

    In this conversation, Andrea and Susan sit down with Laurence to explore how he uses AI as a daily thinking partner while fiercely protecting the human connection his community demands.

    In this episode, you'll discover:

    • Why having a clear "North Star" for who you serve is the single most important thing when working with AI, and how Laurence trains AI to match Heidi's voice and values
    • The "upstream and downstream" framework for using AI as a thought partner to explore a thousand ideas before narrowing to the ones that matter
    • How to decide where AI stops and the human shows up in your customer journey, and why that line might be further along than you think
    • The concept of the "emotional matriarch" and the mother tree, and why intuition and empathy will be the most valued skills in an AI-driven future
    • Why a thousand true fans who'd come to dinner beat a hundred thousand followers, and how to build a filtration system that protects your community's energy

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Heidi Sawyer's website: HeidiSawyer.com
    • Heidi Sawyer's Hay House book (top 0.05% of all books sold on Amazon)

    Connect with Us:

    • Watch these episodes at https://WeAreHumanShow.com
    • Work with us: https://geekoutconnect.com
    1 hr 9 min

About We Are Human

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The future is tech. The purpose is human. This podcast lives in the space between.

Andrea Peer and Susan Leonardson are self-proclaimed tech geeks who spend their days building digital…