While both of the records we're talking about are from nominal side-projects, you couldn't get much further from one another in sound (and perhaps quality?) on the industrial spectrum than Santa Hates You's Crucifix Powerbomb and Anima Nostra's Atraments. We're also talking about the cost of live shows, Laibach's just-announced show in Kyiv, and a solid "goth for metalheads" list.