We like to mark every 25th episode of the podcast with some sort of special theme or format, and so on this episode we're taking up the hefty topic of to what degree goth is a subculture tied to music. Grab your snakebite and Aquanet and expect gatekeeping, gateletting, takes spicy and mild, and no small amount of cattiness. We're also talking about the passing of Roli Mossiman, the news of North American And One dates, and a Devours gig.