It's a two albums episode of the podcast, with records by A Projection and Rikk Agnew linked by the very thinnest of (post) punk threads, though the anthemic synthpop of the former's In A Different Light and the latter's clarification of the influence he'd have on hardcore and deathrock in All By Myself are profoundly different records. We're also talking about the rivethead-focused lineup of this year's Terminus Festival.