"I tend to think taking the Lord's name in vain has less to do with a swear or curse moment, but a lot more with having a human agenda that is not good, unjust... and then using the Lord's name to justify it and make it good."

In this episode of We Should Know Better, the guys pour a fresh glass of Michter's and traverse through the absurdity of modern culture. After raising a glass to Dolly Parton and mourning Big Bear's beloved bald eagle, they dissect a Homeland Security recruitment video using Isaiah 6:8 and dig into what "taking the Lord's name in vain" truly means beyond just swearing.

The conversation heats up as they examine the bad-faith trolling of Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White entering the WNBA draft, the bizarre world of longevity biohacker Bryan Johnson, and whether optimizing every second of your health means forgetting how to actually live. To wrap things up, the crew compares their late-mid-40s skincare routines and tackles long-winded YouTube comments.

00:59 - Intro & In Memoriam for Dolly Parton

07:14 - Delivering Bad News & The Tragedy of Jackie the Bald Eagle

11:45 - When Job Candidates Discover the Podcast

19:15 - DHS Propaganda, Isaiah 6:8, & Weaponizing Scripture

30:43 - What Does Taking the Lord's Name in Vain Actually Mean?

46:42 - Enes Kanter Freedom, Royce White, & WNBA Controversy

01:16:23 - Bryan Johnson, Longevity Obsessions, & Missing the Point of Life

01:27:43 - Skincare Regimens & Red Light Therapy for Men in Their Late 40s

01:40:28 - Reading YouTube Comments & AI Thumbnail Disasters

01:51:52 - Peacock Discoveries & Wrap-Up

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Katheryn Krick: Spirit or spectacle? Faith or fraud? Another alliteration I can't think of right now? 

In this episode of We Should Know Better, the crew gets back into the studio to unpack the wild world of modern church culture and viral internet theology. They kick things off by reviewing the hyper-polished production of South Orange County mega-churches before diving into a viral clip linking a lack of tithing to one's sexual proclivities. 

The guys also dissect an airplane meltdown involving an end-times street preacher, look critically at the cultish dynamics surrounding self-proclaimed apostle Katheryn Krick, and unpack what true biblical masculinity looks like compared to modern caricature. 

Finally, things take a grounded, vulnerable turn as they wrestle with unanswered prayers, serious illness, and what it means to hold space for hard questions in faith.

00:02.35 - Welcome Back & Merch Plugs 

02:11.07 - Over-Produced Churches & South OC Worship Culture 

16:09.17 - Theo-Bros & "If You Don't Tithe You're Gay" Viral Clip 

28:27.23 - Airplane Evangelist: Flight Delays, End Times, & Captive Audiences 

45:30.54 - Personal Faith Journeys & Relational Evangelism 

54:44.11 - Deconstructing Faith Healer Katheryn Krick & Viral Manifestations 

01:13:26.51 - Psychosomatic Healing vs. Genuine Spiritual Encounters 

01:30:59.34 - David and Jonathan: Ancient Relationships & Modern Interpretation 

01:45:39.77 - Re-evaluating Masculinity, Nurturing Traits, and Jesus 

01:55:37.42 - Processing Cancer, Unanswered Prayer, and Pushing Back on God

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Abuse cover-up at Wheaton College and Lindsey Graham died leading to a thirty-three percent drop in war just kidding I made that last part up.

 The guys welcome a special four-legged guest—Ranger the pod dog—before diving straight into the chaos of the internet comment section. Things get spicy as they tackle wild online reactions to their controversial takes on Noah’s flood, divine violence, and the Nephilim. 

Later in the show, the hosts reflect on the passing of Lindsey Graham, unravel the troubling cover-up scandal out of Wheaton College, and dissect the subtle art of soccer flopping and terrible baseball umpires. 

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00:00:30 - Show Intro & Pod Dog Ranger Joins

00:02:09 - Drink Sponsor Ideas & Riverside Technical Issues

00:04:06 - Internet Comments: The Flood & Divine Violence

00:07:22 - Dealing with Blasphemy Accusations & Fundamentalist Energy

00:18:54 - Enthusiast Personalities & Deep Dive Hobbies

00:24:23 - Lindsey Graham's Passing & War Theories

00:29:19 - Wheaton College Controversy & Institutional Cover-ups

00:46:12 - Zach’s Odd Visit to Wheaton

00:50:31 - Institutional Fear vs. Truth

00:58:10 - Sports Talk: The Lakers & Soccer Flopping

00:03:31 - Bad Umpires & John Boy Media

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Abuse cover-up at Wheaton College and Lindsey Graham died leading to a thirty-three percent drop in war just kidding I made that last part up.

The guys welcome a special four-legged guest—Ranger the pod dog—before diving straight into the chaos of the internet comment section. Things get spicy as they tackle wild online reactions to their controversial takes on Noah’s flood, divine violence, and the Nephilim. 

Later in the show, the hosts reflect on the passing of Lindsey Graham, unravel the troubling cover-up scandal out of Wheaton College, and dissect the subtle art of soccer flopping and terrible baseball umpires. 

Grab a drink, stick around through the technical choppiness, and let us know in the comments where we got it wrong!

00:30 - Show Intro & Pod Dog Ranger Joins

02:09 - Drink Sponsor Ideas & Riverside Technical Issues

04:06 - Internet Comments: The Flood & Divine Violence

07:22 - Dealing with Blasphemy Accusations & Fundamentalist Energy

18:54 - Enthusiast Personalities & Deep Dive Hobbies

24:23 - Lindsey Graham's Passing & War Theories

29:19 - Wheaton College Controversy & Institutional Cover-ups

46:12 - Zach’s Odd Visit to Wheaton

50:31 - Institutional Fear vs. Truth

58:10 - Sports Talk: The Lakers & Soccer Flopping

01:03:31 - Bad Umpires & John Boy Media

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We talk about the Bible verses that changed Rick Warren's mind about women in church leadership positions as well as the feud between him and the Souther Baptist Convention. 

What happens when you let your wife produce the podcast and you threaten to fire her during the show? Absolute chaos! 

In this episode, we're joined by special guest producer Lyndsey to break down everything from the marital magic of "chore play" and listener voicemails, to Rick Warren and the Southern Baptist Conventions split over women in church leadership, and why rigid church cultures struggle with nuance. 

Plus, we take a detour through ancient text interpretations, first-century euphemisms, and what it really feels like to step into a brand new church community after a decade of leading the old one.

00:00 - Meet the Producer: Lyndsey Joins the Show

03:00 - Chore Play: The Secret to Romance?

10:15 - Questions with Quaid & Catching Up with Scott

17:30 - The SBC vs. Saddleback: Rick Warren and Women in Leadership

37:00 - First Vagilonians and Linguistic Rabbit Holes

51:00 - The Brittleness of Deconstruction and Church Transitions

1:05:00 - Spotting Cult Tactics and Managing Nuance

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In this episode of We Should Know Better, the guys dive headfirst into a hilariously chaotic mix of viral street culture, heavy theological head-scratchers, and unsolicited physical observations. 

Zack and Andy break down a bizarre viral video of a street preacher casting quite the extreme "biblical" curse on a dancing Jesus impersonator. They then pivot into a raw, honest conversation about their own insecurities—from Zack’s legendary "missing link" brow ridge to Andy’s sudden realization that his bladder is working overtime. 

Later, they tackle the mental shift of unexpected inheritance money, debate the controversial new Texas law mandating Bible reading in public schools, and pull up the receipts on Genesis 9 to figure out exactly what happened when Noah got a little too drunk in his tent. 

Finally, they question whether a lack of modern creativity means the global simulation is simply running out of memory. Pull up a chair, crack a cold IPA, and remember: we should probably know better.

00:00 – Warm Beers & Setting the Curls Free

02:30 – Zack’s "Missing Link" Sun Visor Ridge

05:00 – Testing the South Pacific IPA

08:45 – Reacting to the Street Preacher vs. Dancing Jesus Video

11:45 – Cursing People with Cancer in Jesus’ Name?

13:15 – Our General Disposition on Street Preachers

19:30 – Pouring One Out for LeBron’s Lakers Era (and Melting Hair)

23:00 – Jordan Peterson as Kermit and Miss Piggy

25:40 – The Smell of Sound Dampening Material

27:00 – What Would You Do With a Surprise $50,000?

34:30 – Non-Profits, Free Trips to Hawaii, and Financial Awkwardness

46:30 – Texas Mandates Bible Reading in Public Schools

53:00 – Balancing Faith Integration vs. State Coercion

59:00 – Fact-Checking Genesis: When Noah Got Drunk & Naked

01:05:00 – Did the Flood Actually Fail to Stop Violence?

01:21:00 – Knowing the Heart of God Through Jesus

01:24:00 – Simulation Theory: Did the World Run Out of Memory in the 90s?

01:27:00 – Giving Power to the State Always Bites Back

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In this episode, Zack wonders if most decent christian parents are more loving than the God they believe in. Controversial! This leads to a discussion on the possibility that God's love and ability to save may be better than traditionally thought. 

Also, Andy, Zack and producer Colin dive into a wide range of topics including podcasting upgrades, Father's Day experiences, church 'shopping', theological debates on salvation, and what talent would you give yourself if you had a magic talent wand? 

They share candid insights, humorous stories, and philosophical reflections that invite listeners to think deeply and laugh along. In this episode, we delve into the nuances of talent, storytelling, the head and heart balance, and the importance of vulnerability and community in human experience. 

Join us as we explore how emotions, intuition, and data shape our lives and relationships.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Excitement for Podcasting

03:06 Father's Day Reflections and Family Dynamics

05:52 Exploring Church Experiences and Theological Questions

09:06 The Concept of Salvation and Fatherhood

11:58 Debating Eternal Damnation and Justice

14:55 Understanding Predestination and Free Will

17:57 Cultural Distractions and Political Commentary

21:06 Personal Experiences with Anger and Frustration

23:47 Navigating Professional Challenges and Expectations

26:57 Social Media Dynamics and Public Perception

30:10 Cultural Observations and Global Perspectives

32:51 Concluding Thoughts on Relationships and Vows

41:38 Exploring Vow Renewals and Their Motivations

44:07 The Significance of Celebrating Love and Longevity

48:04 The Role of AI in Communication and Writing

50:11 Admiring Talents: Singing and Craftsmanship

56:05 Nostalgia and the Joy of Dunking

01:01:09 The Intersection of Math and Creativity

01:07:30 Balancing Head and Heart in Decision Making

01:21:48 Navigating Emotions and Logic

01:22:36 The Rider and the Elephant: Understanding Intuition

01:24:51 The Interplay of Emotions and Logic

01:26:45 Cultivating Sensitivity to Intuition

01:28:12 Applying Pressure: Balancing Frustration and Compassion

01:30:41 The Role of Leadership in Difficult Conversations

01:32:12 Head vs. Heart: Delivering Hard News

01:36:01 Finding Balance in Communication

01:44:50 The Complexity of Human Emotions

01:57:31 The Power of Presence in Difficult Moments

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In this episode, we explore a wide range of topics including the influence of conspiracy theories, the nature of faith and belief, societal protests, and the impact of wealth inequality. 

Join us for a candid and humorous conversation that challenges perceptions and encourages critical thinking. 

In this episode, we explore the nature of divine inspiration, the integrity of the Bible, and the influence of political and social events on public perception. We also touch on recent political controversies, UFC events at the White House, and cultural observations.

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In this engaging conversation, Matthew Distefano explores the profound themes of love, morality, and storytelling through the lens of video games like The Last of Us and Red Dead Redemption 2. 

He wrote a killer book on it called "Saints, Sinners, and Clickers: Love and Loss in The Last of Us". The discussion centers on how these narratives challenge our perceptions of morality, the power of storytelling, and the intersection of faith and culture.

Connect with Matthew on Instagram, check out Quoir Publishing on Instagram & YouTube, and The Heretic Happy Hour Podcast

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What happens when a simple video of leading worship sparks a viral "kerfuffle" north of a million views? This week, the guys sit down with Courtney Lancaster from the "Heal/Create" podcast to unpack the "Holy Trinity of Christian Outrage": religion, gender roles, and the deconstruction movement. 

Courtney shares the story behind her unexpected Instagram traction after posting a video of herself leading worship and opening up about her "faith reorganization." The conversation explores the tension of staying within a faith tradition while holding views that differ from conservative evangelical norms. 

Key Discussion Points: The "Mean Christian Comments" Game: Courtney and the hosts react to actual comments from her viral post, ranging from questions about women in ministry to accusations of "New Age psycho-babble." 

Theology of Shame vs. Trauma Recovery: A deep dive into why many were raised with the identity of "shame and depravity" (the idea that God is only good because we are bad) and how trauma-informed therapy offers a different lens on our value as "well-loved children of God."

 Worship Lyrics and Integrity: Courtney explains why she refuses to sing songs that rehearse a shame narrative, such as certain lyrics in "Reckless Love," arguing that a child shouldn't have to "earn" or "deserve" a parent's love. 

Post-Christianity and Individualism: The crew debates the concept of "post-Christianity"—stripping out parts of the faith one likes while discarding the rest—and whether this leads to a "narcissistic" echo chamber or a healthy "faith reorganization." 

The Future of the Church: Reflections on the closing of Mountain View Church and the hope that more "centered-set" spaces will emerge where people can wrestle with divergent ideas without being "kicked out." 

Information Overload: Andy and Courtney discuss how our brains aren't designed to handle the "woes of the world" delivered via 24/7 digital feeds, and the importance of "touching grass" to maintain mental health.

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