Wealthy Wellthy Podcast

EPISODE SUMMARY

I love conversations that get underneath success and ask: What's actually driving it?

I was introduced to Keegan Walden through our mutual friend Cameron Bodenstadt, who predicted we'd hit it off. He was right. What followed was a fascinating conversation about the psychology behind ambition, achievement, and the patterns that can make us successful — until they become the very things holding us back.

We go all the way back to childhood to unpack how our early fears, defenses, identity wounds, and need to be seen can quietly shape the way we lead, build, perform, and burn out. And we explore the question many high achievers eventually face: What happens when achievement stops being enough?

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT

• How Keegan went from psychology to building a venture-backed company
• The childhood experiences that shaped his ambition and need to be seen
• Building Torch, raising nearly $100 million, and eventually selling the company
• Why the patterns that make us successful can eventually hold us back
• How childhood defenses quietly shape leadership and decision-making
• The Enneagram, founder psychology, and the "dark triad" of personality traits
• Why AI may make great coaching and human development even more valuable
• What therapy can uncover when you feel stuck despite being successful
• Why more achievement doesn't necessarily resolve insecurity
• Who are you when achievement is no longer enough?

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro and welcome

1:37 Keegan's upbringing as the only child of a single mom

3:01 Growing up attuned to his mom's emotions

4:22 Childhood safety, uncertainty, and growing up in a rough neighborhood

7:04 Survival skills, daydreaming, and trying on different identities

11:24 The desire to be seen and the Yale story

15:55 Keegan's unexpected path into psychology

18:17 Feeling stuck and finally choosing the psychology path

23:10 Building a private practice and wanting something bigger

25:47 The text that led to co-founding Torch

26:46 Scaling Torch and raising venture capital

27:52 Selling Torch and how AI changed the business

34:08 Why coaching matters more than ever

36:27 Studying and writing about founder psychology

40:16 The hero's journey of entrepreneurship

43:34 How childhood defenses show up in founders

45:26 Idealization, startup culture, and the Enneagram

47:22 Core founder fears and the "status founder"

50:39 The dark triad and its risks in leadership

55:01 What to do when you feel stuck or unmotivated

57:27 Where to find Keegan

LINKS & RESOURCES

• Follow Keegan's work at: keeganwalden.substack.com
• Connect with Keegan on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/keegan-walden-ph-d-672ab9101

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I was introduced to Ari Page through a friend who thought we should meet since we both work in the world of money, investing, and capitalization. When I learned that Ari helps entrepreneurs access funding through business credit card stacking, I was immediately intrigued — but also skeptical.

Like most things involving credit, funding, and financial products, there are plenty of companies making big promises. And because I teach money for a living, I take referrals seriously. I never recommend anything I haven't personally vetted and tested for myself.

So instead of simply interviewing Ari, I became a client.

I went through the entire process myself, step by step, with no intention of using the funding. I simply wanted to see if it worked. Within weeks, I had access to $60,000 in business credit at 0% interest for 12 months. Ironically, shortly afterward, two opportunities appeared: a real estate investment and an advanced training program. Having access to capital allowed me to move quickly without taking a major cash flow hit.

In this conversation, Ari breaks down how to use business credit cards to access capital, exactly how business credit stacking works, and how using his stacking strategy can become one of the most important growth tools in your business.

Most importantly, we talk about why uncertain economic times often create the greatest opportunities for entrepreneurs willing to keep investing in themselves and their future.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT

• Why access to capital is one of the biggest constraints facing business owners
• How business credit cards can function like a business line of credit
• The difference between personal credit cards and business credit cards
• How investors use business credit to fund real estate deals and renovations
• Ways entrepreneurs use business credit to fund marketing, coaching, hiring, and growth
• The advantages of 0% introductory financing versus traditional business loans
• How rewards, cash back, and chargeback protection create additional business advantages
• The importance of having capital available before opportunity arrives
• How to think about funding as a strategic business tool rather than consumer debt

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction to Fund&Grow

01:52 Ari's journey into business credit

06:09 The process of obtaining business credit

11:41 Utilizing business credit effectively

17:41 Real-life applications of business credit

23:43 Understanding qualification requirements

29:52 Navigating economic challenges and opportunities

LINKS & RESOURCES

Click here to prequalify for interest-free business credit through Fund&Grow → https://www.fundandgrow.com/wealthywellthypq

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I was introduced to Sam Horn through JJ Virgin and the Unicorn Club, a mastermind of seven-figure female founders. We met poolside, instantly connected, and have been good friends ever since. Beyond friendship, Sam has become one of my personal mentors in leadership, communication, and storytelling. She's also advised organizations like NASA, Intel, Oracle, and TED, and her work has influenced leaders around the world.

In this conversation, Sam and I talk about something deeper than business strategy or success tactics. We talk about what it means to live well in a world increasingly driven by fear, outrage, distraction, and disconnection.

This episode is about becoming a force for good. About how the smallest moments — a conversation, an act of kindness, what we choose to pay attention to — shape not only our lives, but the emotional climate of the people around us. We explore the stories we tell ourselves, the energy we bring into a room, the difference between success and significance, and why so many people feel anxious and disconnected despite having more opportunity and information than ever before.

Sam shares powerful insights on communication, leadership, relationships, gratitude, purpose, and legacy through the stories and wisdom of extraordinary people she's interviewed through her Force for Good Project. The result is a conversation filled with real-world lessons that genuinely make you pause and rethink how you're living.

This is one of those conversations that stays with you long after it ends.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT

• Why fear spreads faster than wisdom in today's culture
• The difference between success and significance
• How attention shapes identity and experience
• Why "the stories we feed become the life we live"
• The power of becoming a force for good in ordinary moments
• Leadership, communication, and the art of meaningful connection
• Why gratitude and presence are disappearing in modern life
• The role of faith, love, and service in a fulfilled life
• How entrepreneurs unintentionally build lives they don't enjoy
• What Fred Rogers, Oprah, Howard Behar, John Mackey and other influential leaders can teach us about humanity and meaningful leadership
• Why legacy isn't something we leave — it's something we lead
• How to stay hopeful and grounded in a chaotic world

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction to Sam Horn and how we met

02:15 Sam's journey from speaking and storytelling to the Force for Good Project

05:40 Why fear spreads faster than wisdom today

09:10 "The stories we feed become the life we live"

13:25 How attention shapes identity, energy, and relationships

17:40 The difference between success and significance

21:10 Why so many successful people still feel disconnected

25:00 Fred Rogers, Oprah, and lessons in humanity and leadership

29:15 Hospitality, presence, and making people feel seen

33:40 The role of gratitude, faith, and service in a fulfilled life

38:05 Why entrepreneurs accidentally build lives they don't enjoy

42:30 Communication, connection, and becoming unforgettable

47:00 What it means to become a force for good

51:20 Why legacy isn't something we leave — it's something we live

55:10 How to stay hopeful and grounded in a chaotic world

58:40 Final reflections and closing thoughts

LINKS & RESOURCES

• Want Sam to speak at your next event? Visit samhorn.com
• Want to hire Sam as your coach? Visit samhorn.com
• Want to be inspired by Sam's Force for Good Project? Visit samhorn.com
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Let me introduce you to Karl.

I met Karl through JJ Virgin, one of the most well-known and respected leaders in the health and business space. Since meeting Karl, I’ve admired his quiet, humble success. He’s the kind of person who’s built real results without needing to be loud about it. Just a good human doing good work, coming from a grounded place.

Karl is a serial entrepreneur, advisor, and three-time INC. 5000 CEO with nearly four decades of experience leading companies at the highest level. He’s held roles as CEO, President, COO, and CMO, advised everyone from startups to Fortune 100 companies, and is the author of Hustle Doesn’t Scale.

In my interview with Karl… here’s the takeaway:

He built it. Lost it. Went bankrupt. Built it all back again. And then gave it all away to start over from scratch—not because he had to, but to prove that today, with AI and modern tools, you can start from anywhere, at any age, and rebuild success without the grind.

This is a conversation about what actually works now. Less hustle. More leverage. More resourcefulness. And building a business that doesn’t consume your life.

• Building success… losing everything… and choosing to start over again
• Why hustle eventually breaks down (and what replaces it)
• The real reason entrepreneurs become the bottleneck
• How to rebuild income with less time and more leverage
• Using AI and modern tools to accelerate growth
• The difference between working hard and working strategically
• Why resourcefulness matters more than money
• Creating a business that supports your life, not consumes it

• If this conversation hit, take the next step. Karl shares the exact AI tools he’s using and the framework behind his approach in his book, Hustle Doesn’t Scale:
• https://hustledoesntscale.com/

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When my insurance premiums jumped 300% even though I almost never use insurance, I hit my limit. I’m healthy, I take care of myself, and I couldn’t justify paying more and more for a system that feels designed to work against the person funding it. So I went looking for alternatives, found CrowdHealth, joined as a member, and invited the founder on the show to unpack how this model actually works.

In this episode of the Wealthy Wellthy podcast, I sit down with Andy Schoonover, CEO and founder of CrowdHealth, to talk about what’s broken in traditional health insurance and why it keeps getting more expensive. Andy shares the personal moment that pushed him to build CrowdHealth: paying for a procedure for his daughter, doing everything “right” in-network, then getting hit with an $8,000 bill and a denial for being “medically unnecessary.” That experience led him to build a community-based alternative where members fund each other’s medical bills and pay providers directly, without insurance middlemen driving prices up.

We get into the practical details: how CrowdHealth handles big events, how cash-pay negotiation works, what preventative care looks like inside the model, and who it’s a fit for (and who it’s not). If you’re an entrepreneur, self-employed, or just done with the insurance racket, this is a real-world conversation about reclaiming control, lowering costs, and putting healthcare back between you and your doctor.

What We Talked About:

1. Why traditional health insurance is incentivized for prices to rise (and why denials happen in-year).
2. Andy’s origin story: the “medically unnecessary” denial that became the spark for CrowdHealth.
3. How CrowdHealth works: pay providers directly, negotiate bills down, and submit eligible costs to the community.
4. The $500 “skin in the game” approach for health events, designed to avoid catastrophic deductibles.
5. Preventative care and quarterly “specials” (including labs and tests) plus the annual wellness visit support.
6. Prescriptions and how CrowdHealth can help negotiate high-cost meds.
7. The care advocate model: one person assigned to you, vs. call-center chaos.
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Let me introduce you to my good friend Kisma Orbovich. I met Kisma at a mastermind, and the moment I met her, I knew I wanted to know her better both as a person and as a spiritual mentor. In this episode of the Wealthy Wellthy podcast, Kisma shares her journey from international classical musician to prosperity coach, and the pivotal moments that led her to study and teach the universal laws that govern success, fulfillment, and wealth.

We talk about intuition, resilience, and what it means to live in alignment rather than force. Kisma breaks down the universal laws in a way that’s grounded, practical, and accessible, explaining how concepts like vibration, non-resistance, and cause and effect show up in everyday life, business, and money. She also shares why so many well-meaning people feel stuck, anxious, or unfulfilled, and how subtle shifts in belief, perception, and action can radically change the future to more ease and abundance.

This conversation is about moving from survival to self-mastery. We explore the relationship between spirituality and business, why money is energy, and how conscious decision-making can open the door to greater prosperity, clarity, and peace of mind. If you’re feeling like there’s another level available to you, personally or professionally, this episode will help you understand what’s been blocking it and how to begin shifting in a meaningful, practical way.

What We Talked About:

1. "You're a prisoner of your past, but you're the architect of your future."
2. "Action is the insignia of life."
3. "Money is energy, and it's one of the great energies of the planet."
4. "If you haven't decided internally that you can have this life, you'll keep running into obstacles."
5. "Gratitude is a soothing emotion that can help reset your vibration."

Learn How to WORK WITH Kisma HERE

In this episode of the Wealthy Wealthy podcast, Dr. Steven Young shares his journey from early trauma and survival mode to becoming an entrepreneur, advisor, and founder working at the intersection of science, spirituality, and human potential. Drawing from decades of experience with thousands of clients and the deep study of the Hermedic Laws, Steve explains why symptoms are rarely the real problem and how most people are living from conditioned fear rather than conscious choice.

This conversation explores how consciousness, physiology, and environment work together to shape health, wealth, and decision-making. Steve unpacks the evolution from hustle-driven entrepreneurship to what he calls “spiritpreneurship,” where structure and flow coexist. We talk about Hermetic principles, biohacking, technology, and the deeper code that governs reality, as well as his work building Ammortal, a technology designed to optimize health, mindset, and human performance. This episode invites listeners to question the systems they’re operating in and consider what’s possible when life and business are created from alignment instead of survival.

What We Talked About:

1. How Steve’s early experiences shaped a life that bridges entrepreneurship, spirituality, and conscious creation
2. Why symptoms are rarely the root issue, and how health, wealth, and fulfillment are governed by deeper systems
3. The thinking behind Ammortal and the Immortal Chamber as tools for optimizing vitality, mindset, and awareness
4. The role of Hermetic principles in understanding reality, personal power, and intentional creation
5. The difference between operating from fear-driven structure versus living and building from flow
6. How COVID accelerated a shift toward purpose-led entrepreneurship and conscious business models
7. Why the future of business is moving toward omnibenefit, serving people, planet, and prosperity together

Why the Hermetic Laws Matter in 2026

The Hermetic Laws are the blueprint behind how reality actually works. When you understand them, you stop reacting and start creating with intention.

In a year that will demand clarity, adaptability, and conscious leadership, these principles offer a grounded framework for better decisions, stronger alignment, and sustainable success. Steve Young’s four-hour course makes these laws practical and usable across health, business, and life. If 2026 is the year you move from effort to flow, this is a smart place to start.

Click this link to get a 50% discount on Steven's course on the Hermetic Laws.

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Stress, anxiety, trauma, poor sleep, burnout. These aren’t edge cases anymore. They’re the operating system most people are running on.

In this episode, I sit down with Jim Poole, CEO of NuCalm, for one of the most illuminating conversations I’ve had about the brain, stress, and performance. Jim has spent the last 17 years pioneering a field most people have never heard of but desperately need to understand: applied neuropsychobiology, or how the brain actually regulates stress, fear, sleep, and focus.

Jim shares his personal background, from growing up with two psychotherapist parents and moving 14 times before graduating high school, to working in private equity and mental health institutions, to ultimately finding his life’s work through NuCalm. He explains why stress is responsible for 95–99% of disease, why our nervous systems are stuck in survival mode, and why most people don’t fail because of mindset, but because of physiology.

This conversation breaks down complex neuroscience in a way that finally makes sense. We talk about the amygdala, oxygen, brainwave frequency, sleep architecture, trauma, and why mindfulness works when it works—and why it often doesn’t.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing “all the right things” but still living in stress, exhaustion, or fight-or-flight, this episode will change how you understand your brain and what’s actually within your control.

What We Talked About:

Bullets:

1. Why chronic stress is at an all-time high and how the nervous system is wired for survival, not modern life
2. The role of the amygdala, oxygen-rich blood, and brainwave frequency in stress, anxiety, focus, and sleep
3. Why mindfulness works physiologically, not philosophically, and why most people struggle to practice it
4. How trauma and prolonged stress trap the brain in high-frequency survival states
5. The science behind NuCalm and how it guides the brain into specific states like deep sleep, focus, creativity, and recovery
6. Why sleep is non-negotiable for health, performance, and longevity
7. How entrepreneurs and high performers can self-regulate without burnout

These come after the bullets.

Timestamps:

1. 00:00 Introduction to Jim Poole and NuCalm
2. 04:49 Jim Poole's Background and Early Influences
3. 08:14 The Journey to NuCalm and Its Impact
4. 11:38 Dr. Blake Holloway's Story and Motivation
5. 15:08 The Entrepreneurial Partnership Between Jim and Blake
6. 20:41 Understanding Stress, Trauma, and the Nervous System
7. 27:58 Understanding Our Shared Human Experience
8. 30:20 The Battle for Brain Resources
9. 32:11 The Importance of Mindfulness and Oxygen
10. 33:40 Vibration, Frequency, and Our Dynamic Nature
11. 39:41 The Impact of Frequency on Mental States
12. 46:32 NuCalm: A Tool for Self-Regulation
13. 53:27 Empowering Entrepreneurs with NuCalm

Links & Resources:

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Longevity Talks is a special Wealthy Wellthy Podcast series leading up to the Wealth & Wellness Longevity Retreat, September 26–28 in Park City, UT.

In each conversation, Krisstina Wise sits down with the experts who will be joining her live on stage. Together, they reveal the strategies, systems, and mindsets that build not only financial wealth but also the health and longevity to enjoy it.

You’ll hear powerful insights on:

• Wealth creation — real estate investing, infinite banking, and true passive incom
• Wellness & performance — the latest science on energy, recovery, and vitality
• Longevity & lifestyle design — how to extend your health span to match your wealth span

Every talk is a preview of the breakthroughs and connections awaiting you at the Retreat.

🎟️ Learn more and reserve your seat: krisstina.com/live

In this Longevity Talks episode, Krisstina sits down with financial freedom expert Chris Miles, the founder of Money Ripples and the “Anti-Financial Advisor.”

Chris and Krisstina dive into the strategies the wealthy actually use — not the myths Wall Street wants you to believe. From debunking common financial advice to uncovering the real role of infinite banking (a tool Krisstina herself has used to purchase several properties), this conversation cuts through the noise and shows you what it really takes to create freedom.

You’ll discover:

• Why most “passive income” strategies don’t actually make you free
• How Chris helps high-income earners stop working for money and make their money work for them
• How infinite banking can be leveraged as a real wealth-building tool
• Why both Chris and Krisstina believe financial independence is possible faster than you think

🎟️ Want to learn these strategies directly from Krisstina and Chris? Join us in Park City, September 26–28, for the Wealth & Wellness Longevity Retreat → krisstina.com/live

In this episode, Krisstina and Richard Canfield — an Infinite Banking practitioner and long-time student of Nelson Nash — dive into the philosophy behind Becoming Your Own Banker and why it reshaped both of their lives. Richard shares how a $20 book gave him a better financial education than $40,000 worth of real estate and personal finance seminars, and why Infinite Banking is about more than insurance policies; it’s about behavior, mindset, and creating a family system of wealth.

Together, they discuss the difference between tax strategy and tax prep, how to rethink “capital” as the foundation of wealth creation, and why payments never end — but you can choose whether to make them to a bank or back into your own family system. Richard also explains how he teaches clients to hold “family banking meetings,” passing down not just money but the values and habits that ensure wealth lasts for generations.

If you’ve ever felt constrained by traditional banks, frustrated with debt, or unsure how to secure your financial legacy, this conversation offers a radically different way of thinking about money — one that could change your life and your family’s future.

Links & Resources

Becoming Your Own Banker – Nelson Nash: https://amzn.to/4fVbwIo

Cash Follows the Leader by Richard Canfield & Jason Lowe: https://amzn.to/3JF4T0V

Don’t Spread the Wealth by Richard Canfield & Jason Lowe: https://amzn.to/47l8Phn

What They Talked About

3:40 – Krisstina’s introduction to Infinite Banking through Becoming Your Own Banker

6:45 – Richard’s first copy of Nash’s book and why he still re-reads it today

12:00 – Why this $20 book was more valuable than $40,000 of financial seminars

18:30 – Nelson Nash’s philosophy: "It’s all about how you think"

26:00 – The connection between Austrian economics and Infinite Banking

33:00 – Understanding capital and why payments never end

45:00 – Becoming your own banker vs. Infinite Banking as a family system

50:00 – How to host family banking meetings and pass wealth values down generations

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