In this episode, I’m joined by Barbie, founder of Summon — a modern dating app built to put women and men back in control of their dating experiences, yet still designed to find you the ideal partner.
We dive deep into the concept of decentering men, not as a rejection of romance, but as an act of reclaiming your time, energy, and emotional bandwidth.
We also chat about the gender dynamics that exist between women and men today, the pressure to be chosen, the myths that keep women stuck in cycles of romantic over-investment, and why dating on your own terms is the real flex.
Barbie shares her journey as a founder, the inspiration behind Summon, and the shifts she’s seen in dating culture that made her want to build something different. Her mission? To create a dating experience that actually respects your time — helping users find meaningful connections without the emotional burnout or endless swiping.
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