WellSpring SoulCARE

Today we sit down with Patti Pierce, the founder of WellSpring. I’ll just say this- Patti was a bit reluctant to do an interview here - she told me, “I don’t know why people would want to hear my story.” But trust me, you are going to be glad that Patti agreed to share her journey with us, and I believe you are going to be helped, encouraged, and challenged by what Patti has to say. It’s my privilege to both learn from and work alongside Patti, and I can tell you that not only is she “the real deal” - she has a HUGE heart of love – for Jesus, for other people, as especially for leaders and pastors.

Our conversation today is with Chuck DeGroat. Chuck is a follower of Jesus, a husband to Sara for 26 years, and father to two amazing daughters.

He is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland MI. He co-founded Newbigin House of Studies in San Francisco where he serves as a Senior Fellow. During his years pastoring, he started two church-based counseling centers. 

Chuck is an author, having written Leaving Egypt: Finding God in the Wilderness Places, The Toughest People to Love , Wholeheartedness , a Lenten devotional is Falling Into Goodness, and his latest is When Narcissism Comes to Church  where he diagnoses a profound problem in our churches and among our clergy, and offer a way forward.

Today we’re talking with K.J. Ramsey, author of the book, This Too Shall Last, Finding Grace when Suffering Lingers. K.J. is a truly gifted writer and author, a therapist, podcast host and prolific on Instagram - showcasing God’s beauty in delightful ways and photos. K.J. is the wife of Ryan, who is a pastor and currently serves as a chaplain. Most of all, K.J. is a follower of Jesus who is deeply honest about her own journey of pain and suffering, as she has battled an auto-immune disease for over a decade, living with daily and chronic pain. K.J.’s writing has appeared in Christianity Today and in Relevant Magazine, among other places, and her book has been critically praised and a source of help and wisdom to many, many people. You are going to be helped and encouraged by our conversation with K.J. Ramsey. Please enjoy!