In this episode we talk to Joe Curcillo who is a mentalist, magician, speaker, author and more. Joe talks about his start and transition from magician to mentalist and why he felt after years of performing felt like he needed a fresh start. Joe now incorporates mentalism and magic in his speaking gigs he does all around the world. All this and much more in this week's episode. wesiseli.com Patreon.com/wes_iseli