Batman #232, published in 1971, might not have been the greatest Batman story ever told, but with “Daughter of the Demon,” writer Dennis O’Neal and artist Neal Adams (Yes, those two again) introduced readers to Ra's al Ghul, one of the most enduring villains in comics history.

Since their inception decades earlier, comic books were viewed as juvenile entertainment. In 1970, Writer Dennis O’Neil and artist Neal Adams set out to change that with a story some refer to as the day comics got “woke.” Steve and Paul discuss Steve’s initial reaction to the story and how the dialogue might be written today. Also in this episode, Paul gives Steve and the listeners a brief history of comics.

Your hosts, Steve Vinson and Paul Schultz stopped by the NPR studios to speak briefly with Chesterfield Station and Alistair Powers of "Well Said" about their new podcast.