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OpsTalk – Fire Lieutenant Profile: Part Two
Host: Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger
Guests: Lt. Nolan Bailey, Lt. Sam De Craen, Lt. Greg Schar
Episode Overview
In Part 2 of this conversation, Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger continues the discussion with three fire lieutenants, focusing on mentorship, leadership development, and preparation for promotion.
This episode goes beyond checklists and test prep, exploring the human side of the job. The panel shares strategies for self-reflection, building relationships, adapting leadership styles, and leveraging everyday opportunities to grow as a company officer.
Listeners will hear why preparation for promotion is really preparation for the role itself, how to cultivate influence, and why humility, authenticity, and adaptability are key to effective leadership.
Part 2 focuses on:
The role of mentorship in leadership development
Preparing beyond the test
Self-reflection, feedback, and understanding personal leadership style
Strengthening technical and interpersonal skills
Being authentic, adaptable, and people-focused in day-to-day operations
Chapters & Timestamps
01:05 – Introduction
01:43 – Mentorship and Preparing for Leadership
03:26 – Early Preparation and Self-Reflection
07:51 – Everyday Opportunities
09:12 – Self-Introspection and Human Skills
18:27 – Continuous Preparation
25:25 – Strengthening Weak Areas
26:46 – Mindset for Testing
29:18 – Motivation and Leadership Purpose
32:56 – Department History and Authenticity
37:30 – Being Authentic and Prioritizing Problems
40:16 – Closing Remarks
#FireServiceLeadership
#CompanyOfficer
#FireOfficerDevelopment
#FireServicePodcast
#leadershipdevelopment
Referenced:
"Having the Leadership Mindset" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/having-the-leadership-mindset/
"First Due: Preparing for Large Events" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/structural-firefighting-first-due-preparing-for-large-events/
"Successful Leaders Must Get Comfortable Operating in the Gray" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.firerescue1.com/leadership/articles/successful-leaders-must-be-comfortable-operating-in-the-gray-X8JMSBkZMJOiUJBP/
"Leadership Isn't Easy, but Stop Making it so Complicated" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.firerescue1.com/leadership/leadership-isnt-easy-but-stop-making-it-so-complicated
"Focusing on the Firsts" Brian Brush
No link available. Email if you'd like a copy.
Contact:
[email protected]
Eric Linnenburger
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
Nolan Bailey
[email protected]
Sam de Craen
[email protected]
Greg Schar
[email protected]
Host: Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger
Guests: Lt. Nolan Bailey, Lt. Sam De Craen, Lt. Greg Schar
Episode Overview
In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger sits down with three fire lieutenants at very different stages of their careers to unpack what the fire lieutenant position really looks like today.
This episode goes beyond job descriptions and promotional checklists. Through personal stories, hard-earned lessons, and candid discussion, the panel explores how lieutenants build trust, lead experienced crews, navigate people problems, and balance operational decision-making with the human side of the job.
Listeners will hear why there is no single “right” path to becoming a successful company officer—but why shared values like humility, adaptability, accountability, and service consistently matter.
Part 1 focuses on:
• The role of the fire lieutenant as the first-line company officer
• Each guest’s unique path to leadership
• Early challenges in the seat
• Building credibility and trust with crews
• Why relationships off the fireground matter as much as decisions on it
Part 2 (coming in two weeks) will shift toward mentorship, leadership development, and how to prepare for promotion.
Chapters & Timestamps
00:00 – Intro & Episode Focus
What the company officer role really demands
02:45 – Acting Officer vs. Promoted Officer
When responsibility becomes 24/7
08:10 – Ownership of the Crew & the House
Everything under (and outside) the roof is yours
14:30 – The “Unsexy” Side of the Job
Discipline, admin issues, and constant problem-solving
20:10 – Influence Beyond the Firehouse
Why relationships outside your department matter
27:40 – Auto Aid & Regional Firefighting
Thinking bigger than your station or city
35:15 – Being an Ambassador for Your Department
Protecting credibility, culture, and reputation
42:05 – Kitchen Table Leadership
Managing venting, conflict, and division
50:30 – Setting Expectations & Controlling the Climate
Letting people vent—without letting it rot morale
58:40 – Why Being a Company Officer Is Fun
Influence, decision-making, and loving the job
1:03:20 – Confidence in the Gray Area
Experience, crew trust, and early decision-making
1:10:45 – Mentorship & Learning from Giants
Standing on the shoulders of great officers
1:16:50 – Building a Crew That Makes You Better
Why officers don’t succeed alone
1:22:40 – Part 2 Tease: Mentorship & Preparation
What’s coming next
#FireServiceLeadership
#CompanyOfficer
#FireOfficerDevelopment
#FireServicePodcast
#leadershipdevelopment
Referenced:
"Having the Leadership Mindset" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/having-the-leadership-mindset/
"First Due: Preparing for Large Events" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/structural-firefighting-first-due-preparing-for-large-events/
"Successful Leaders Must Get Comfortable Operating in the Gray" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.firerescue1.com/leadership/articles/successful-leaders-must-be-comfortable-operating-in-the-gray-X8JMSBkZMJOiUJBP/
"Leadership Isn't Easy, but Stop Making it so Complicated" Eric Linnenburger
https://www.firerescue1.com/leadership/leadership-isnt-easy-but-stop-making-it-so-complicated
"Focusing on the Firsts" Brian Brush
No link available. Email if you'd like a copy.
Contact:
[email protected]
Eric Linnenburger
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
Nolan Bailey
[email protected]
Sam de Craen
[email protected]
Greg Schar
[email protected]
Summary
In this episode of Ops Talk, Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger sits down with Fire Chief Kris Blume, author of "Carry the Fire: The Crucible of Leadership in the Fire Service." They discuss officer development, mission-driven culture, and the critical difference between command presence and command resonance. Chief Blume shares insights on accountability done right, leading with authenticity, his journey to fire chief, and how to stay connected to your purpose and the people you serve. Essential listening for current and aspiring fire service leaders.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership in Fire Service
03:14 Chris Bloom's Journey to Fire Chief
06:51 Transitioning from Tucson to Meridian
10:46 The Role of Company Officers in Fire Service
14:41 Building Relationships and Support Systems
18:42 Exploring 'Carry the Fire' and Officer Development
21:17 Mission-Driven Culture in Fire Service
27:51 Decision-Making Under Pressure
31:46 The Importance of Intent in Leadership
38:54 Real-Life Examples of Mission-Driven Decisions
42:07 Empowering Community Service Through Leadership
45:38 Command Presence vs. Command Resonance
51:49 Building Command Resonance in Leadership
56:43 The Importance of Accountability in Leadership
01:05:54 Weathering the Storm of Leadership Challenges
01:13:16 Final Wrap Up
Where to get "Carry The Fire":
https://fireengineeringbooks.com/books/carry-the-fire-the-crucible-of-leadership-in-the-fire-service/?srsltid=AfmBOormbw8YiNV3IzWlBRvZRCcRHMKi5306qlJ1CvA0TCLcPSScANPR
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=carry+the+fire+blume&crid=1RG8E035AOWU3&sprefix=carry+the+%2Caps%2C172&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-expert-pd-ops-ranker_1_10
Contact: [email protected]
Eric Linnenburger:
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
In this episode of the OpsTalk podcast, Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger interviews members of the Urban Search and Rescue (US&R) team, WFD Captain Scott Wilmes and WFD Engineer Bryce Nilsson. They discuss the motivations behind joining US&R, the various roles and responsibilities within the team, and the logistics of rapid deployment during disasters. The conversation highlights the importance of training, the impact of deployments on personal lives, and the support systems in place for team members and their families. They also share insights from a recent deployment in Texas, emphasizing the value of teamwork and community support in emergency response situations.
Takeaways
-USAR provides unique opportunities for firefighters to serve.
-Training and experience gained in US&R benefit local communities.
-Deployments require significant logistical planning and rapid response.
-Peer support is crucial for coping with stress during deployments.
-Family support is essential for team members during long deployments.
-The selection process for US&R is competitive and thorough.
-Teamwork and collaboration are key to successful operations.
-Serving in US&R is about contributing to something larger than oneself.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Urban Search and Rescue Team
03:54 Motivation for Joining US&R
06:00 Roles and Experiences in US&R
08:03 Understanding the Federal Framework
12:56 Logistics of Rapid Deployment
15:48 Structure and Specialties of the Task Force
20:01 Impact of Deployment Experiences
23:59 Overview of Recent Deployment to Texas
31:22 Family Support During Deployments
33:05 The Impact of Deployments on Family Life
37:28 Support Systems: The Unsung Heroes
41:14 Coping with Trauma in High-Stress Situations
45:43 The Value of Team Training and Experience
49:17 The Path to Joining Colorado Task Force 1
55:39 Motivation and Continuous Learning in Service
01:02:00 Closing graphic.mp4
Links:
https://www.westmetrofire.org/colorado-task-force-1-co-tf1
Contact:
[email protected]
Eric Linnenburger
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
Scott Wilmes
[email protected]
Bryce Nilsson
[email protected]
Summary
In this episode of the OpsTalk podcast, host Eric Linnenburger discusses the emerging challenges of battery fires, particularly those involving electric vehicles (EVs) and lithium-ion batteries, with Battalion Chiefs David Varney and Luke Gearhard. The conversation covers the development of policies for handling these incidents, the importance of education and adaptability in firefighting tactics, and the need for collaboration among fire departments. The chiefs share insights from their experiences, including case studies of recent EV fires, and emphasize the importance of safety protocols, proper equipment, and ongoing training for firefighters.
Takeaways
-Battery fires, especially from EVs, are a growing concern.
-Policies for handling EV fires are evolving based on new information.
-Education and adaptability are crucial for firefighters.
-Firefighters must be aware of the toxic gases produced by battery fires.
-Proper PPE and air supply are essential during battery fire incidents.
-Collaboration among fire departments enhances response strategies.
-Understanding the science behind battery fires can improve tactics.
-Letting a battery fire burn can sometimes be the safest option.
-Early identification of EVs can change the response approach.
-Post-incident procedures are critical for firefighter safety.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Battery Fires and Guest Introductions
04:39 Policies for Handling Battery Fires
16:11 Approaches to Photovoltaic Systems and Safety
26:27 Portable Battery Fires and Best Practices
30:38 Mitigating Lithium-Ion Battery Hazards
34:13 Understanding Thermal Runaway in Batteries
37:57 Navigating Electric Vehicle Fires
49:29 Letting It Burn: A New Approach to EV Fires
56:10 Collaborating with Tow Companies for Safe EV Handling
58:53 The Challenges of EV Vehicle Storage
01:01:23 Understanding EV Fire Risks and Safety Measures
01:04:59 Innovations in Firefighting Tactics for EVs
01:09:27 Best Practices for Responding to EV Incidents
01:14:03 Post-Incident Considerations and Safety Protocols
01:17:33 The Importance of Continuous Learning in Firefighting
Keywords
battery fires, EV fires, lithium-ion batteries, firefighting tactics, energy storage, fire safety, fire department policies, emergency response, hazardous materials, firefighter training, extinguishment, EV blankets, firefighting foam, SCBA, vapors
Links
Firehouse Fishing Company YouTube page:
https://www.youtube.com/@UC2RJDCn4V41fvrsbAzR7myA
Firehouse Fishing Company Website:
https://firehousefishingcompany.com/
Mountain View Garage Explosion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCQ_7xDQ7Ho&list=PLqmyxWIqEauQNMW-bcstglj1Fseks_K9k
StacheD Training:
https://www.youtube.com/@UCoEAf9DqlFLAHYzog_Y21DQ
Sacramento Incidents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-XFHdnN1tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hO5R07NNzY
South Metro Incident:
https://youtu.be/J0gRFIbsx1E?si=HwouoQq6O1l1rEcS
FSRI Fire Blanket Testing:
https://fsri.org/research-update/experiments-studying-fire-blanket-effectiveness-control-electric-vehicle-fires-are
https://fsri.org/news/potential-hazard-involving-ev-fire-blankets
FSRI EV Experiments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6j3GtcAfE0
Contact:
[email protected]
Eric Linnenburger
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
David Varney
[email protected]
Luke Gearhard
[email protected]
In this episode of Ops Talk, Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger and Lieutenant Ryan Meigel discuss the importance of the Hazmat team within the fire service, emphasizing leadership, motivation, and the value of involvement at both local and national levels. They explore the role of company officers in the International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC), the significance of mentorship, and the need for collaboration in emergency responses. The conversation highlights practical takeaways for first responders and encourages younger generations to engage in specialty teams and training opportunities.
Takeaways
-Hazmat plays a crucial role in everyday fire service operations.
-Involvement in the fire service goes beyond job descriptions.
-Company officers should get involved at the national level.
-Mentorship is vital for personal and professional growth in the fire service.
-Younger firefighters should seek opportunities to learn and grow outside their positions.
-Collaboration among departments enhances emergency response effectiveness.
-Hazmat incidents are more common than perceived, requiring constant readiness.
-Encouraging a culture of involvement can motivate younger members.
-The fire service must adapt to evolving Hazmat challenges, including new technologies.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:59 Motivation and Involvement in the Fire Service
05:41 The Role of Company Officers in the IAFC
08:36 The Importance of National Involvement
10:53 Getting Involved in IAFC
12:44 Opportunities Beyond IAFC
16:20 The Value of Mentorship
18:48 Challenges for the Younger Generation
21:03 Understanding Hazmat Calls
25:59 The Evolving Nature of Hazmat Responses
27:18 The Impact of Hazmat Exposure on Firefighters
30:05 Building Interest in Hazmat Training
33:22 Onboarding and Involvement in Hazmat Teams
37:31 Regional Collaboration in Hazmat Response
40:59 Encouraging Young Firefighters to Get Involved
49:21 Motivation and Growth in the Fire Service
Contact Information:
opstalk.wfd @gmail.com
Eric Linnenburger:
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
Ryan Meigel:
Welcome to Ops Talk, Westminster Fire Department's operational training podcast.
We're here to have real conversations about fire department operations, tactics, and the people doing the work. Hosted by Deputy Chief of Operations Eric Linnenburger, each episode features firefighters, officers, and subject matter experts from within and outside the organization, discussing what truly matters on the front lines.
What you'll find here:
-Tactical discussions on evolving challenges like EV fires, hazmat response, and technical rescue
-Position and specialty team profiles that go beyond the job description
-Lessons learned from real incidents and experiences
-Honest conversations about leadership, team building, and professional growth
-Insights from both inside and outside the Westminster Fire Department
Who this is for:
Current first responders, aspiring first responders, and anyone interested in understanding modern fire service operations. Think of it as pulling up a chair at the kitchen table - real discussions, practical knowledge, and lessons we can all learn from.
New episodes at least monthly - Available in video here on YouTube and audio on all major podcast platforms.
Contact Information:
opstalk.wfd @gmail.com
Eric Linnenburger:
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
Welcome to the very first episode of Ops Talk! Deputy Chief Eric Linnenburger introduces Westminster Fire Department's new operational training podcast and explains why we're creating this platform.
In this episode, we discuss:
The primary goal is to provide a training and information-sharing mechanism for those moving the needle in a positive direction across the fire service.
Creating a platform for productive conversations about big ideas and making them actionable.
How we'll share honest and vulnerable lessons that help navigate ever-changing, complex environments.
The show focuses on topics relevant to the Westminster FD but welcomes the broader fire service community to be part of the conversation, as well as non-fire service community members interested in what we do.
How the fire service has evolved and why continuous learning is more crucial than ever in navigating our complex and nuanced environments.
What's Coming Next:
Future episodes will feature subject matter experts from inside and outside our organization, discussing operational challenges, tactics, specialty teams, and the people doing great work 24/7/365.
New episodes at least monthly - Subscribe to stay updated!
00:00 Introduction to OpsTalk Podcast
01:03 Goals and Objectives of the Podcast
02:55 Format and Structure of the Show
04:11 Upcoming Episodes and Topics
05:15 Engagement and Community Involvement
Contact:
Eric Linnenburger
linkedin.com/in/eric-linnenburger
[email protected]
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The people, the work, and the ideas driving the fire service forward.
Ops Talk is hosted by Eric Linnenburger, Deputy Chief of Operations at Westminster Fire Department. We profile the…