In this episode of the Celebrate Kids podcast, host Wayne Stender discusses the vital role children play in today's society with Dr. Kathy, arguing against the notion that they are merely the church's future. He reflects on a meaningful conversation with his son about the purpose of kids in a family and within culture. This leads to deeper questions about how society perceives children—whether they are seen as participants in cultural building or simply as a legacy for the future. Dr. Kathy explores these themes further, drawing insights from philosopher Anastasia Berg's work, "What Are Children For?" This episode encourages parents and caregivers to wrestle with the significance of children's roles in the present and the challenges that accompany these perspectives. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that aims to reshape how we view and nurture the children in our lives.