February 19, 2026

“What Are You Going to Do Now, Big Boy?” with Wren Aaron

45 minutes

When you’re an athletic coach, you also function in some ways as a pastor; when you’re a pastor, you also take on the role of a coach. Wren Aaron, who spent 25 years as a coach and public school teacher, and another 17 in ministry, has plenty of experience with the ups and downs of both. Currently the regional director of the Nations of Coaches athletics ministry, Wren talks with Nate Dewberry this week about the lessons he’s learned in both roles. He shares not only the leadership principles that have become guiding lights in his life and career, but also his thoughts on marriage and fatherhood, as well as maintaining bonds with other men that matter, whether we realize it or not.

Segments/chapters

0:00 Intro/Wren’s résumé

4:22 Wren’s history with basketball

10:02 Difficult periods on Wren’s spiritual journey

15:56 When someone you’ve invested a lot in makes the wrong choice

18:23 Reflections on marriage and fatherhood

24:26 Wren’s guiding principles of coaching and leadership

30:11 Maintaining relationships and accountability across different seasons of life

39:21 Closing thoughts

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