What Came Next

By Broken Cycle Media

What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the ... more

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January 09, 2026 158: [Nicole Meyer] The Fear Was So Strong // Part 1
Content Warning: domestic violence, physical, emotional, spiritual, and professional abuse, stalking, child abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and rape.
Nicole Meyer is a mother, educator, and victim-survivor of several types of abuse from Melbourne, Australia. Her journey towards justice and healing was a long, arduous one that spanned 15 years and two countries. Amidst it, she was joined by her sisters, who she would find out were victims of Nicole’s alleged abuser. The highly publicized nature of their legal battle inspired them to participate in the documentary, Surviving Malka Leifer, and has propelled Nicole to continue to speak out in Parliament and worldwide. Her mission is to unite and empower survivors, as well as to spread awareness as a means for prevention. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very appreciative of Nicole’s time, advocacy, and powerful perspective in these episodes.
Nicole's Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/breakingthesilencenow
Nicole's TikTok:
http://www.tiktok.com/@nicoleymeyer
Revealed: Surviving Malka Leifer by Stan.
https://www.stan.com.au/watch/revealed-surviving-malka-leifer-2025
For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
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January 02, 2026 157: [What Came Next] Thank You!
Hi friends,
We wanted to take a moment to wish our audience the healthiest, happiest new year possible. We are endlessly grateful for each of you who listens, shares, and shows up with curiosity and care. We don’t take your listening lightly. Thank you for choosing to spend your time with us, for leaving your hearts open to our guests’ perspectives, and for supporting What Came Next in ways both big and small. This podcast exists because of your time, your trust, and your willingness to engage in these conversations. This week, we encourage you to go back and re-listen to any episodes that deeply impacted you, share them with your loved ones, or leave a positive review on your preferred podcasting platform. And don’t forget to follow What Came Next on Instagram. Every action of support helps us continue to make this show and is deeply appreciated. Thank you again!

What Came Next on Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast

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December 26, 2025 156: [Dr. Kelli Boling + Dr. Danielle Slakoff] Helping Those Harmed
Content Warning: domestic violence, murder, and missing persons.

Dr. Kelli Boling and Dr. Danielle Slakoff join us today to discuss their impactful research about the creation and consumption of true crime media. They both bring years of experience and expertise to their work in hopes of inspiring true crime to be a more equitable healing space for victims and co-victims. The Broken Cycle Media team has long admired their work and is honored they would join us to talk about their research discoveries and how we can all work to improve the genre for those at the center of crime.

Dr. Kelli Boling: https://kelliboling.com/

Dr. Danielle Slakoff: https://daniellecslakoff.weebly.com/

Sources:

Boling, Kelli S.. ““It’s that ‘There but for the Grace of God Go I’ Piece of It”: Domestic Violence Survivors in True Crime Podcast Audiences.” Mass Communication and Society 26 (2022): 991 - 1013. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/%E2%80%9CIt%E2%80%99s-that-%E2%80%98There-but-for-the-Grace-of-God-Go-I%E2%80%99-of-Boling/f938790522bc62fa985351bc951e3ce0e3ded9ac

Boling, Kelli S. “True Crime Podcasting: Journalism, Justice or Entertainment?” Radio Journal:International Studies in Broadcast & Audio Media, Intellect, 1 Oct. 2019, intellectdiscover.com/content/journals/10.1386/rjao_00003_1#cited

Boling, K. S., & Hull, K. (2018). Undisclosed Information—Serial Is My Favorite Murder: Examining Motivations in the True Crime Podcast Audience. Journal of Radio & Audio Media, 25(1), 92–108. https://doi.org/10.1080/19376529.2017.1370714

Boling, K. S., & Slakoff, D. C. (2025). “What an invasion, an immense invasion”: Examining the adverse effects of true crime media on co-victims. Crime, Media, Culture: An International Journal, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1177/17416590251371618

Slakoff, Danielle C., and Kelli S. Boling. 2025. “‘Media Pressure Is What Makes Law Enforcement Move’: Insights from Co-Victims About the Positive Impacts of True Crime Media Attention.” Mass Communication and Society, August, 1–17. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15205436.2025.2549719

Slakoff, D.C., Boling, K.S. & Tadros, E. “I just couldn’t cope with it, you know? I just couldn’t believe that she was gone”: The Portrayal of Co-victims’ Grief in True Crime Podcasts about Missing (but Presumed Killed) Women. J Fam Viol 39, 303–313 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10896-022-00471-w

Slakoff, D. C., & Brennan, P. K. (2017). The Differential Representation of Latina and Black Female Victims in Front-Page News Stories: A Qualitative Document Analysis. Feminist Criminology, 14(4), 488-516. https://doi.org/10.1177/1557085117747031 (Original work published 2019)

“True Crime Obsession: Sleuths, Streamers, and Serial Killers.” YouTube, Vice News, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsO_iynpH1E

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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December 19, 2025 155: [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] The Justice I Was Denied // Part 2
Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder.

As shared in part one of her story, Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years.

Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Courage
https://www.kellysk9s.org/

Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/

Kelly on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/

IDtv's 'Toxic':
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/show/toxic-investigation-discovery-atve-us

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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December 12, 2025 154: [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] A Fire in Me // Part 1
Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder.

Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on December 16th, 2019, when the loving relationship she had been cultivating with her new husband ended violently. After surviving an alleged attempted murder, Kelly has made it her mission to bring awareness and advocacy through her non-profit and sharing her story in the media. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Kelly’s transparency, expertise, warmth, and listenership and support throughout the years.

Kelly's K-9's: Tails of Courage
https://www.kellysk9s.org/

Kelly's K-9's on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/kellys_k9s_tailsofcourage/

Kelly on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/real_talk_with_kelly/

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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December 05, 2025 153: [Janelle Hill] Beauty in the Brokenness // Part 2
Content Warning: verbal abuse, physical abuse, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, and suicidal ideation.

Janelle Hill is a psychiatric nurse practitioner and survivor from Montana. She and I first had the chance to meet each other at an intimate dinner celebrating the survivor-founded non-profit, The Army of Survivors, and their newest evolution: a full rebranding as The Athlete Survivor's Assist. Janelle currently proudly serves on their advisory board, and shared a bit of her story that evening. I was deeply moved by her strength, expertise, and ability to encapsulate her difficult experiences with grace and relatability. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful Janelle took the time to share her story of survivorship and about her advocacy work with our audience in the following two episodes.

Sources:

Janelle Hill. “Reclaiming Boundaries: Breaking The Silence of Sexual Abuse In Sports.” YouTube, TEDxOmaha, www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2phpQoZVQ.

Resources:

The Athlete Survivor's Assist:
https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/

The Athlete Survivor's Assist on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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November 28, 2025 152: [Janelle Hill] Trauma-Informed // Part 1
Content Warning: verbal abuse, physical abuse, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, and suicidal ideation.

Janelle Hill is a psychiatric nurse practitioner and survivor from Montana. She and I first had the chance to meet each other at an intimate dinner celebrating the survivor-founded non-profit, The Army of Survivors, and their newest evolution: a full rebranding as The Athlete Survivor's Assist. Janelle currently proudly serves on their advisory board, and shared a bit of her story that evening. I was deeply moved by her strength, expertise, and ability to encapsulate her difficult experiences with grace and relatability. The Broken Cycle Media team is grateful Janelle took the time to share her story of survivorship and about her advocacy work with our audience in the following two episodes.

The Athlete Survivor's Assist:
https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/

The Athlete Survivor's Assist on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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November 21, 2025 151: Ep. 17 [Dr. Danielle Moore] No Longer a Number - 6/2/23
*Content warning: self-harm, child abuse, physical, mental, emotional, and sexual abuse and assault.

Dr. Danielle Moore is a doctorate of forensic psychology, victim advocate, and former competitive gymnast. Despite the fact that her tumultuous journey has included extensive abuse and physical and emotional pain, Dr. Dani is a true beacon of hope for survivors. No matter what came next for her, she has managed to channel her energies into advocacy, to make true change in athletic systems all-around.

The Athlete Survivors' Assist formerly Army of Survivors:
https://theathletesurvivorsassist.org/what-we-do/

The Athlete Survivors' Assist formerly Army of Survivors on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/theathletesurvivorsassist/

Dr. Danielle Moore on Instagram
http://www.instagram.com/dr.dani2016

End Violence Against Women International
https://evawintl.org/

Sources:

“Wheels.” Domestic Abuse Intervention Programs, 24 Apr. 2021, www.theduluthmodel.org/wheels/

Tim Evans, Mark Alesia. “Former USA Gymnastics Doctor Accused of Abuse.” The Indianapolis Star, IndyStar, 24 Jan. 2018, www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/09/12/former-usa-gymnastics-doctor-accused-abuse/89995734/

Yancey-Bragg, N’dea. “1 in 4 College Athletes Say They Experienced Sexual Abuse from an Authority Figure, Survey Finds.” USA Today, Gannett Satellite Information Network, 26 Aug. 2021, www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/26/college-athlete-report-sexual-assault-common-survey/8253766002/

Free + Confidential resources: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

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November 14, 2025 150: [Maggie Freleng] Communicate the Humanity
Content warning: wrongful conviction, domestic violence, childhood abuse, robbery, death, and murder.

Maggie Freleng is an advocate, award-winning journalist, and producer reporting on wrongful convictions, the criminal legal system, and social issues. She's the host and producer of the Pulitzer Prize-winning podcast Suave on PRX, as well as the host and producer of the Signal and Anthem award-winning podcast, Wrongful Conviction with Maggie Freleng. She also hosts Up and Vanished Weekly podcast, and is here to share about her newest release, Bone Valley Season three entitled Graves County, as well as about her work across all genres of storytelling. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for this illuminating conversation and for Maggie's expertise and advocacy.

Bone Valley, S3: Graves County
https://lavaforgood.com/graves-county

Suave on PRX:
https://play.prx.org/listen?uf=https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.feedburner.com%2Fsuavepodcast

Wrongful Conviction with Maggie Freleng:
https://lavaforgood.com/with-maggie-freleng

Up and Vanished Weekly:
https://upandvanished.com/up-and-vanished-weekly/

Maggie on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/maggiefreleng/

For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Sources:

Carson, E. Ann. “Prisons Report Series: Preliminary Data Release.” Bureau of Justice Statistics, bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/prisons-report-series-preliminary-data-release

“National Registry of Exonerations’ Annual Report Finds Majority of Exonerees Are People of Color and Official Misconduct Is the Main Cause of Wrongful Convictions.” Death Penalty Information Center, deathpenaltyinfo.org/national-registry-of-exonerations-annual-report-finds-majority-of-exonerees-are-people-of-color-and-official-misconduct-is-the-main-cause-of-wrongful-convictions

Ostoyich, Halle. WV Innocence Project | West Virginia University, 2 Oct. 2020, wvinnocenceproject.law.wvu.edu/innocence-project-blog/our-voices/2020/10/02/wrongful-convictions-the-facts

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November 07, 2025 149: [Marlee Liss] Meaningful Justice
Content Warning: rape, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.

Marlee Liss is a survivor,award-winning speaker, victim advocate, somatic educator, and author from Toronto, Canada. She grew up in the arts, but pivoted to social work when she began her college career. It was in Marlee’s junior year when her life changed forever; she became the victim of a sexual assault and entered an arduous journey in the criminal justice system as a result. However, three years into that battle for justice, Marlee found an additional path: restorative justice. According to Walden University, quote “Punitive justice is the idea of punishing criminals for their crimes against society or the legal system itself, and is the traditional method of handling crime in the United States. Restorative justice seeks to bring victims of crimes into the justice process. Criminals are asked to take accountability for their wrongdoing by facing those they have wronged... The theory is that criminals owe more than a debt to society—they owe a debt to specific people,” end quote. The two processes are not always mutually exclusive. It’s important to note that criminal justice can occur tandemly with restorative justice practices. The Broken Cycle Media team is so very grateful for Marlee's powerful perspective advocacy and time and energy in sharing in this episode.

Resources:

Survivors for Justice Reform:
https://www.survivors4justicereform.com/

Dr. Alissa Ackerman:
https://www.alissaackerman.com/

Marlee's Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/marleeliss/

Marlee's TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@marleeliss

Survivors for Justice Reform on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/survivors4justicereform/

National Association of Community and Restorative Justice:
https://www.nacrj.org/

NACRJ Restorative Justice Map:
https://members.nacrj.org/rj-map/FindStartsWith?term=%23%21

Sources:

Statistics: The Criminal Justice System - Rainn, rainn.org/facts-statistics-the-scope-of-the-problem/statistics-the-criminal-justice-system/

“What Is Restorative Justice?” Walden University, www.waldenu.edu/programs/criminal-justice/resource/what-Is-restorative-justice.

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