When you hear the word “grandparents”, what comes into your

mind?

For me, it’s someone who loves their grandchildren

unconditionally. And they just want to GIVE all the time. There’s some truth to

the phrase “If Mom and Dad say no, go ask Grandma!”.

“Grandma” brings up an image of an older woman, in the

kitchen baking cookies. “Grandpa” means the old man out in the garage,

tinkering with the lawn mower and having me “help” by handing him a wrench or a

screwdriver.

But those are just stereotypes. And sometimes real life

doesn’t match up with the way we commonly think of how grandparents are

supposed to be.

As a little girl, Gwen saw her grandparents all the time.

And she knew her grandpa could sometimes be a not very nice person.

Then one day, Gwen’s grandma decided she’d had enough.

Content warning: this episode includes discussion of gun

violence.

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group:

https://WhatWasThatLike.com/facebook

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Every Tuesday, we grab a past question from the

Facebook group, then Meredith and Scott answer it and read some of the answers

given by other listeners.

The question for this episode:

What's the most difficult thing you've ever had to tell

someone?

Links for this episode:

Fierce Conversations by Susan Scott:

https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Conversations-Achieving-Success-Conversation/dp/0425193373

Meredith’s podcast is Meredith For Real – the Curious

Introvert:

https://MeredithForReal.com

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If you’re a parent, you know that the birth of your first

child is an incredible experience. For Steve and Camre, it didn’t happen at all

the way they expected it to.

Steve got the call at work that Camre was at the hospital

and had already delivered the baby. He dropped everything and drove there

frantically, and he was confused because the baby wasn’t due for another 7

weeks.

He ran into the hospital, and the first thing he saw was his

newborn son, Gavin. He quickly scrubbed up and held him for the first time.

What Steve didn’t know was that, at that moment, Camre was

being put into a medically induced coma in order to save her life. He also

didn’t know that when she would come out of that coma, she would have no memory

of anything. She would not recognize Steve, and she wouldn’t even know she had

just had their baby.

This is a Flashback episode. Steve originally told this

story on the podcast about 5 years ago, so at the end of today’s episode we’ll

get to hear from modern-day Steve, and he’ll tell us what’s happened since

then.

Steve’s book:

https://www.amazon.com/Know-Love-Steve-Camre-Curto/dp/1693701502/ref=sr_1_1

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https://WhatWasThatLike.com/212

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Asian elephants are incredibly huge animals.

An adult elephant can be roughly 9 to 11 feet tall. Just

standing next to one is pretty intimidating. But imagine being on top of one of

them. It would be like if you had an average size man, then another man was

standing on the first man’s shoulders. Then you would be sitting on that second

man’s shoulders. That’s pretty high up.

For Leilani, it was a dream from her childhood to interact

with a full-size Asian elephant. And that’s where she found herself – in

Thailand, on a mountain trail, on top of one of those huge animals.

And then things went wrong.

Leilani socials –

https://www.instagram.com/rowoffire/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilani-otuafi-558a77b9/

Full show notes and pictures for this episode are here:

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Every Tuesday, we grab a past question from the Facebook group, then Meredith and Scott answer it and read some of the answers given by other listeners.

The question for this episode:

What made your neighbor so terrible?

Links for this episode:

Meredith’s podcast is Meredith For Real – the Curious Introvert:

https://MeredithForReal.com

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Floyd loved exploring the caves of Kentucky, but one day

things didn’t go as planned.

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The thing about living in an apartment or renting a room is… you have to deal with other people.

Depending on how the building is laid out, it’s almost like living with strangers. If your next door neighbor accidentally starts a fire, your home could burn too. If the person above you has a flood, it’s very likely that you’ll be dealing with that problem as well.

Not to mention, what if your neighbors in this same building are jerks? Or they have 20 drunk people at their place for a party? Or they practice their drums at 3 am?

These are all things to consider, and you might not even be able to research all of this before moving in.

My guest today is Tiffany. She was in a different country, and she rented a room to live in. There were other rooms, and other people living in those rooms, and they were mostly nice. But there was one guy who was not so nice. And he was pretending to be the landlord.

Tiffany’s socials:

Her podcast on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/bittersweetlifepodcast/

Her podcast on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/thebittersweetlifepodcast

Tiffany’s Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/tiffanyparksrome

Tiffany’s book:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071HD869D

Full show notes and pictures for this episode are here:

https://WhatWasThatLike.com/210

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Every Tuesday, we grab a past question from the Facebook group, then Meredith and Scott answer it and read some of the answers given by other listeners.

The question for this episode:

What’s the most disgusting thing you’ve found in someone else’s home?

Links for this episode:

Using hollowed-out fruit for ice cream bowls:

https://www.tastingtable.com/1616069/hollowed-out-fruit-ice-cream-bowls/

Dogs eating condoms:

https://pawp.com/dog-ate-a-condom/

Meredith’s podcast is Meredith For Real – the Curious Introvert:

https://MeredithForReal.com

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Imagine you’re out in public, just going about your day. Let’s say you’re in the grocery store.

And as you’re pushing your shopping cart down the aisle, you notice a tall man, maybe 10 feet ahead of you, looking at the items on the shelf. And suddenly, that man collapses to the floor.

What would you do?

Most people don’t really know what they would do, until a situation like that actually comes up. Some people just freeze. If it happens in a busy place, some people will just keep walking. There’s this interesting psychological effect called diffusion of responsibility – that just means that everyone who sees something like this happen just assumes someone else will help. But the end result is that no one takes action.

But then there’s another type of reaction. There’s the person who sees an emergency like that, and their first thought is “what can I do to help that person?”.

My guest in this episode is Kevin, and that was his reaction. He was just finishing up a round of golf and was walking back to the clubhouse. And he saw that someone was on the ground.

This is a Flashback episode. Kevin told this story on the podcast 5 years ago. So afterward, you’ll hear what he’s been up to since then.

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I’ve had more than 200 people come on this podcast and share a story of something crazy that they’ve been through. If nothing else, I’ve learned one thing. Life can change in an instant.

For Dan, he’s just enjoying the outdoors on a trail in Alaska, and suddenly he’s on his back with the snout of a grizzly bear in his face.

Amy was just at work in her office in Oklahoma – then just seconds later she’s trapped under a pile of rubble and a bomb blew up her building.

Kennedy was just driving her car – then she loses control and finds herself literally hanging by her leg from the power line.

These are all regular people, just like you and me. They were just going about their life, and suddenly they got a big scary surprise.

My guest today is Carly. She actually lives not far from me so we recently met in person. Carly was out with her family once, just driving around looking at the neighborhood Christmas lights.

And then she spotted someone who was in desperate need of help.

Find CPR training near you with this website:

https://Atlas.heart.org 

Zach’s podcast called A Rising Tide:

https://zachkidd.com/podcast-a-rising-tide

Full show notes and pictures for this episode are here:

https://WhatWasThatLike.com/208

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