There is a difference between knowing the gospel and being moved by it. In this conversation with Pastor Francis Chan, that difference becomes hard to miss. What starts as a moment of raw honesty as Francis watches Candace respond to the gospel with tears opens into something much bigger: what it actually means to stay inside the love of God, not just visit it.

Francis shares the mountain biking story from his new book (written with his daughter Mercy) that says everything about where we fix our eyes and what happens when we don't. They talk about the distinction between conviction from the Holy Spirit and condemnation from the enemy, why those two things feel similar but lead in completely different directions, and what it looks like to keep coming back to the gospel like it's the first time you've heard it.

A listener named Candice (with an i) asks about scripture for recurring struggles, and Francis answers with the kind of honesty that actually helps. And Candace shares a season of her own life when she wanted God at arm's length and knew exactly why.

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Connect with Candace and Francis 

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Francis on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@CrazyLoveMinistries

Website: https://www.crazylove.org/

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