This week on ITMOJT, Jax sits down with Easton Burningham (cohost of Give Them Lala Pod) for a powerful conversation about addiction, relapse, and the difficult road to recovery. Easton opens up about a recent relapse triggered by his sister’s health scare, and Jax shares what it’s like to navigate sobriety while dealing with divorce, fatherhood, and public scrutiny.

They discuss the stigma around mental health for men, the struggle of sitting with uncomfortable feelings, and how community support—both inside and outside of AA—can make all the difference.

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