Our weekly podcast with a collection of stories that will make you say.... "What the Fuck!"
This week Jess has two guests: Mara and Olivia Carroll. So sit back and relax and enjoy the craziness!

There are stories that will stay with you forever. For us, the telling of Michelle and Dave Knotek's crimes are one of those stories. The horrible abuse and torture that their victims endured at the direction of Michelle are some of the worst that we have heard of. This episode we bring to light the disgusting accusations against the couple and why it is so important for this story to be told. Join us as we wrap up our first season of the podcast with an emotional recounting based on information that her daughters have shared of this story. Please help us share this information so that Michelle Knotek never has the chance to do this again if she is indeed released from prison in 2022.

Some information from this episode:
Large parts of information are taken from the book:
"If You Tell: A True Story of Murder, Family Secrets, and the Unbreakable Bond Of Sisterhood" By Gregg Olsen
Find it here on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/If-You-Tell-Unbreakable-Sisterhood-ebook/dp/B07Q5TL9SQ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1OPM251VBZZGM&dchild=1&keywords=if+you+tell+book&qid=1593493413&sprefix=if+you+tell+boo%2Caps%2C207&sr=8-2

http://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/knotek-michelle.htm
https://nypost.com/2019/11/30/kids-of-murderer-michelle-shelly-knotek-warn-their-mom-could-kill-again/

How do you go from being a decorated war hero and family man, to targeting sex workers in serial killings? We'll never get an answer from Robert Lee Yates, Jr who currently sits in Washington State Penitentiary without possibility of parole for his part in 13 horrible murders. Yates was able to lead a double life and get away with it for a few years. Most any one you speak to that knew him never thought he would be capable of the crimes he admitted to, including his very own wife who had no idea that a victim was buried in her own backyard for quite some time. The horrible crimes he committed raised fear in the Spokane community for 2 years before the killing spree would end. Join us for a look at his crimes and how he was eventually caught.

Some info from this episode:
http://heraldnet.com/new/yates-wife-visits-him-and-asks-why/
http://murderpedia.org/male.Y/y/yates-robert-lee.htm
http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Yates,%20Robert%20Lee.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yates

Lifetime Movie Network "Monster in my family"
https://www.mylifetime.com/shows/monster-in-my-family

Serial Killer Robert Lee Yates Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4nWd-VDu0I

This episode takes us back to Bellevue for another family murdered by 2 young kids. The Wilson family was brutally murdered in 1997; the reason? Well, some teenage boys were "in a rut". Alex Baranyi, Jr and David Anderson would be convicted for the crimes, both at the age of 17. We talk a little bit on the similarities to The Rafay Family Murder from Episode 4 and we wonder, was this a copycat crime or a coincidence? In this case, it's very clear, these were kids with killing on their minds. Join us as we discuss the dark details in this week's episode of What Happens in the Woods.

Some info from this episode:

http://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/baranyi-alex.htm
http://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/anderson-david.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellevue_murders
https://www.swordandscale.com/the-wilson-family-murders/

Just a little bonus episode where odd and sensational crimes are discussed. While some stories are lighthearted, some just have us shaking our heads and asking "WTF, Washington?"

Some Info From This Episode:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/pierce-county-woman-wanted-a-baby-girl-more-than-anything-charges-in-kidnapping-plot-say/

https://people.com/crime/vili-fualaau-looking-for-woman-own-age-or-younger-after-split-mary-kay-letourneau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mary_kay_letourneau
https://mynorthwest.com/648166/vili-fualaau-files-for-separation-from-teacher-mary-kay-letourneau

https://patch.com/washington/seattle/man-accused-keeping-treehouse-full-child-porn-enters-plea
https://apnews.com/26845bd9962546e78dd47418b2e51f81

https://patch.com/washingotn/lakewood-jblm/gun-shoots-mans-car-i-5

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijacking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHSehKtDyoI

https://patch.com/washington/across-wa/watch-ungodly-fast-pig-loose-tukwila

Join us this episode as we talk about brothers Randolph and David Roth, convicted murderers in the state of Washington. Their crimes were separate and unrelated, however it led us to ask the question: Can being a murderer be a genetic trait?
We learn about the use of a peacock feather as a way to convince a stranger to have sex and discuss why the 80's were a horrible time for hairstyles and meeting possible spouses.
They say there comes a time when everything comes full circle. This episode is that moment for our podcast. (Don't ask who "they" is, we don't know) It seems to us that the connections in the Pacific Northwest are tight between killers and there is no shortage of similarities to be found among them.
As always, the saying remains true...Stay out of the woods!

Some info from this episode:
murderpedia.org
wikipedia.org
seattletimes.com

This episode goes back a few decades but the details are still just as chilling.
Richard Laurence Marquette liked to meet women in bars and would be the prime example of why you should never go home with a stranger. He was a young man when he committed an incredibly horrific murder after a night of bar hopping. But what would you say if we told you that while he was convicted if 1st degree manslaughter (and sentenced to life in prison) just 11 short years later he was released and would commit a similar crime? Investigators would claim he was calm and even keeled while psychiatrists that evaluated him declared he was "emotionally disturbed". Eventually Marquette would murder 3 women in total in the state of Oregon before being sentenced for the second time to life in prison...this time with no possibility of parole.
Join us as we discuss the list of his crimes and some of the unusual details.

Some info from this episode:
www.oregonlive.com
www.murderpedia.org
wikipedia.org

This episode finds us tracking a murderous couple with a sinister agenda. Holly Grigsby and Joey Pedersen began their killing spree in Everett, Washington and were caught just 10 days later in Northern California. They would have 4 unfortunate victims throughout their travel of 3 states; all in the name of furthering their white supremacist revolution. Join us as we discuss what decisions led them to their paths and what their beliefs led them to do. This crime is definitely one to remember.

Some info from this episode:

www.pdxmonthly.com
nydailynews.com
murderpedia.org

There is one case, and one case only, we could think of to add as a bonus episode here at What Happens in the Woods. That is the disappearance of Don Lewis, 2nd husband to the now infamous Carole Baskin from the Netflix series "Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness" and CEO of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Florida. There isn't much information or any actual leads in the this case, but there is no shortage of topics to discuss. So join us as we ask the two most important questions out there; What Happens in the Tiger Sanctuary and Where is Don Lewis?

Some info from this episode:
bigcastrescue.org
bcrwatch.com
netflix.com/tigerking

While Jess binges another docu-series, she comes across a murder from 1994 that happened in the town of Bellevue, Washington. In her mind, this is just more proof the PNW is the epicenter of murder crime. Of course she needs to know more after finishing the 2 episodes on "The Confession Files" that describe the crime and researches as much as she can on it.
That brings us to our latest podcast episode; "The Rafay Family Murders". Atif Rafay and Sebastian Burns were Canadian citizens ultimately convicted of killing 3 members of Atif's family in 2004 and both were sentenced to life without possibility of parole in the U.S. The most compelling evidence used in court by prosecutors was obtained in Canada in a manner that is illegal in the states. Which leads to the question, did Burns and Rafay receive fair trials?
Join us as we discuss the particulars of the timeline and behavior of the two young men after the murders take place. We'll also share our thoughts on the evidence and if we agree in its use during the trials. And of course, we're share our opinions on their guilt. Were they just a couple of young, dumb boys or sociopathic murderers who didn't expect to get caught? Listen in and share your thoughts!

Here are some links from this episode:
The Rafay Burns website https://rafayburnsappeal.com/
"The Confession Tapes" Episode 1&2 "True East" https://www.netflix.com/title/80161702
Vancouver Magazine article https://www.vanmag.com/tiffany-burns
The Seattle Times article https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/family-says-convicted-killers-innocent/
Seattle Weekly article https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/king-county-prosecutor-dan-satterberg-says-the-show-is-bunk-the-creators-disagree/
State of Washington vs. Rafay and Burns http://courts.mrsc.org/appellate/168wnapp/168wnapp0734.htm