Picture it: you’re on a crowded subway and someone sneezes. Or maybe you’re on a plane and the person next to you keeps coughing. Perhaps you shook hands with someone who didn’t wash their hands after going to the bathroom. Interaction with germs is inevitable, but why do some people get sick while others don’t? Social neuroscientist Dr. Keely A. Muscatell tells Jonathan all about what happens when we get sick and why. We go deep on how the innate and adaptive branches fight against pathogens, how social experiences impact our physical health, and what we can do to help prevent getting sick.

Dr. Muscatell is a social neuroscientist and psychologist from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Her research explores how social experiences impact physical health. She is also the director of the Social Neuroscience and Health Laboratory at UNC Chapel Hill.

You can find Keely on Instagram @drkeelz. You can follow her lab on X @socneurohealth and find more information about their work here.

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