What exactly is contemplation and contemplative prayer? Is it new age nonsense or does it lie at the very heart of the Christian life? 

And if, as we argue in this episode, it's the latter, how exactly does the average Joe "do" it?! 

In this episode Brandon interviews Dr. John Kleinig of the Australian Lutheran Church tackle all these questions and a few more.

Dr. Kleinig holds a Ph.D from Cambridge and is the author of several books on the topic of prayer in the Lutheran tradition. Together he and Brandon take a deep dive into the biblical model of contemplation from the Lutheran perspective. 

This is the first of a series of conversations on the topic of contemplation with experts and practitioners from across the Christian and religious spectrum.

You don't want to miss this episode!

A few of Dr. Kleinig's Books referenced in the show:

 Grace upon Grace: Spirituality for Today

Wonderfully Made: A Protestant Theology of the Body

Leviticus (Concordia Commentary)

Hebrews (Concordia Commentary)

Prayer: We Speak to God